Originally posted by galveston75
Sorry Jay but that makes no sence at all..........You playing with words again which makes it sound so far out in left field it's almost funny.
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Sorry Jay but that makes no sence at all..........You playing with words again which makes it sound so far out in left field it's almost funny.
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No it is not at all. I can back it up 100%.
The Word
BECAME flesh. If the Word
BECAME flesh that means that He
BECAME something that He previously was not. Otherwise it would not say that He
BECAME that.
Yes or No ?
So God had divinity and put on
flesh which He
BECAME. John 1:14 -
"And the Word became flesh and tabernacled among us."
Of course as a Jehovah's Witness you do not believe that the Word was God. So you probably will not get this far. But your Arian belief that the Word was "a god" was rejected rightly so by the Christian brothers centries ago.
So moving on. It makes no sense to you that Christ's resurrection was a BIRTH ? Well let us see what Christ says about His resurrection:
"A woman, when she gives birth, has sorrow because her hour has come, but when she brings forth the little child, she no longer remembers the affliction because of the joy that a man has been born into the world.
Therefore you also now have sorrow, but I will see you again and your heart will rejoice, and no one takes your joy away from you." (John 16:21,22)
Jesus likens His trial of crucifixion and His resurrection as the BIRTH of a child into the world. Not only here, but the same concept in chapter 12:
"And Jesus answered them, saying, the hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified.
Truly, truly, I say to you, Unless the grain of wheat falls into the ground and dies, it abides alone; but if it dies it bears much fruit." (John 12:23,24)
This too is like birth. It is the GERMINATION aspect of Christ's death and resurrection. His dying is like the falling of a grain into the earth. And His resurrection is the germinating birth of a new life.
Now let us come to Peter's application of Christ being declared by God the Son frmo the Second Psalm of David -
"He said to Me: You are My Son. Today I have BEGOTTEN You" (Psa. 2:7)
"That God has fully fulfilled this promise to us their children in raising up Jesus, as it is also written in the second Psalm, "You are My Son; this day have I begotten You."
And as to His having raised Him up from the dead, no longer to return to courruption, He spoke in t his way, "I will give you the holy things of David, the faithful things." (Acts 13:33,34)
You never learned this down at the Kingdom Hall of Russellite theology. Now I tell you that the Apostle Peter applied Psalm 2 about the begetting of the Son of God to Christ's resurrection. He was incarnated the Only Begotten Son of God. But He was resurrected the Firstborn Son of God. The day of His resurrection was the day the Firstborn Son was BEGOTTEN of God. Acts 13:33 proves this. Here
TODAY is the day of Christ's resurrection.
This is also the teaching of the Apostle Paul from the book of Romans. Christ was declared the Son of God in power in His
resurrection;
"Concerning His Son, who came out of the seed of David according to the flesh, Who was designated the Son of God in power according to the Spirit of holiness out of the resurrection of the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord..." (Romans 1:3,4)
Here the Apostle Paul does not refer to Jesus being designated Son of God at His birth or at His baptism (as recorded in the synoptics). Here in Romans Paul pinpoints the
resurrection of Christ as the time when God designated Him the
Son of God in power. This was the Firstborn Son of God.
Something and Someone was BORN into the universe. Christ's resurrection was the beginning of a new creation in which MAN was Godnized. The created part that He took on in incarnation was desginated the Firstborn Son of God.
He wore this deified human nature in ascension back to the eternal throne and He retains it for eternity.
This is a short post. So I do not write all that I need to. But Acts 13:33 and Romans 1:2,3 along with other passages prove that Christ's resurrection was a BIRTH. Man was brought into God.