Originally posted by Bosse de NageI think you had better check your facts on that. The Catholic church actually allowed priests to marry long before Luther. But as the Vicars of Christ received more and more "revelation," they slowly began to outlaw God's law.
& the first priest to legitimately bed a woman since pagan times.
Originally posted by kingdanwaFact check welcome--when were priests stopped from marrying?
I think you had better check your facts on that. The Catholic church actually allowed priests to marry long before Luther. But as the Vicars of Christ received more and more "revelation," they slowly began to outlaw God's law.
I know that the priests of the Celtic church were always allowed to marry.
Is the Lutheran church a significant force in the spiritual landscape today?
Originally posted by Bosse de NageVery early in the Church's history:
Fact check welcome--when were priests stopped from marrying?
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03481a.htm (see section on History of Clerical Celibacy).
Note: married men are not prohibited from becoming priests; but priests are prohibited from marrying.
Originally posted by kingdanwaJust out of curiosity, If its Gods law, how could men outlaw it?
I think you had better check your facts on that. The Catholic church actually allowed priests to marry long before Luther. But as the Vicars of Christ received more and more "revelation," they slowly began to outlaw God's law.
Wouldn't that mean those men are more powerful than god?
Originally posted by Bosse de NageThe recent film was pretty good, but I did not agree with how the actor played Luther - the way he seem sort of wimpy and uncertain at key points in history. But who knows.
The film. The man. What do you think about it/ him? Lutheran opinions especially welcome.
You could say Luther was the unwitting god-father of the Reformation. He only wanted to reform the Catholic church - but start a movement that he never expected and ofter lost control of. He didn't want a church denomination to be call "Lutheran" but I think he relented when it was inevitable.
The movie does a good job showing some of more earthy elements of Luther - his use of name calling and vulgar images. He was far less prudish and proper then we American Evangelicals tend to be. He wasn't afraid to call his opponents fools, asses, and worse. And I think he had biblical precedence for his "style" of discourse.
Overall, a movie worth watching.
