And I suggest that one does tell only truth for a good while before they engage in deceit
You must know pure truth before you can start embellishing
For the record I've been telling only truth as I see it on these forums and I can see some of it is hard to swallow but I wont apologize
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke A great contribution to the thread. To my mind, it has been aptly argued that lying is occasionally a necessity and a wise course of action,..and yes, at times even a moral obligation.
This being the case, would Jesus himself have considered certain lies as morally acceptable? (if they prevented harm being done to others etc). The classic example ...[text shortened]... ad gone up to the feast, then He Himself also went up, not publicly, but as it were, in secret."
This being the case, would Jesus himself have considered certain lies as morally acceptable? (if they prevented harm being done to others etc). The classic example of course is
(John 7:8) -"Go up to the feast yourselves; I do not go up to this feast because My time has not yet fully come."
(John 7:10) - "But when His brothers had gone up to the feast, then He Himself also went up, not publicly, but as it were, in secret."
Originally posted by @thinkofone [b]This being the case, would Jesus himself have considered certain lies as morally acceptable? (if they prevented harm being done to others etc). The classic example of course is
(John 7:8) -"Go up to the feast yourselves; I do not go up to this feast because My time has not yet fully come."
(John 7:10) - "But when His brothers had gone up to th ...[text shortened]... f also went up, not publicly, but as it were, in secret."
How exactly is that an example?[/b]
Sorry, that should have read, "The classic example of 'Jesus' possibly telling a lie' is of course....."
Feel free to explain though why the passage in John doesn't identify a lie. (Say's he's not going to the feast, but then secretly goes).
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke ... would Jesus himself have considered certain lies as morally acceptable? (if they prevented harm being done to others etc). The classic example of course is
(John 7:8) -"Go up to the feast yourselves; I do not go up to this feast because My time has not yet fully come."
(John 7:10) - "But when His brothers had gone up to the feast, then He Himself also went up, not publicly, but as it were, in secret."
The passages you quote refer to the circumstances of his entrance to Jerusalem, which he wished to coincide with the feast of the Passover. I do not see what they have to do with lying to avert injustice. In order that his purpose be fulfilled, injustice had to be done (and woe to them who had to do it).
Originally posted by @thinkofone C'mon. Given that you backed it off to "possibly telling a lie" , seems likely that you've been able to come up with a few scenarios yourself.
Lying - A social necessity?
13 Mar '18 20:38
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