Originally posted by Grampy BobbyThere are four divine institutions which have applied to the human race since it began with the first man and woman in the Garden of Eden [and have also been willfully violated over the centuries as well as in some nations/constitutional monarchies/countries/villages during our own lives]: [...] 4.Nationalism [or the national entity which must be protected and defended to safeguard against the loss of freedom and return to bondage or enslavement].The price of freedom has always been and still is military victory. Accept the reality of these four divine institutions or reject them [and suffer the eventual consequences]: Choice is yours.
Would you see Russia's annexation of the Crimea as a "safeguard against the loss of freedom" of the Russian people living in the region, and therefore do you see the "nationalism" at work there [and the "military victory" involved] as divinely blessed by your God figure?
Originally posted by Proper Knob"Is this a view shared by other Christians here on this forum? Is this mainstream Christian ideology or a stream from the lunatic fringe as I suspect?" As a contributor to this online spirituality foum please realize that yours truly hasn't a clue as to what other "Christians" think. Mine is stated.
The questions in my OP that you relied to.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyWell of course, I'm hardly going to ask people what other people think. That would be daft.
"Is this a view shared by other Christians here on this forum? Is this mainstream Christian ideology or a stream from the lunatic fringe as I suspect?" As a contributor to this online spirituality foum please realize that yours truly hasn't a clue as to what other "Christians" think. Mine is stated.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieif it's that clear and concise, you wouldn't mind sharing it again with those late at the party. i would rather not go through 5 pages of you arguing with him.
I have provided a clear and concise view of my stance, you may make reference to that, or you could continue to make stuff up as you slobber along.
can a husband demand sex from his wife (or husband) and can he force himself upon her (or him) if refused?
Originally posted by ZahlanziSome people think so but I don't.
if it's that clear and concise, you wouldn't mind sharing it again with those late at the party. i would rather not go through 5 pages of you arguing with him.
can a husband demand sex from his wife (or husband) and can he force himself upon her (or him) if refused?
Zahlanzi : can a husband demand sex from his wife (or husband) and can he force himself upon her (or him) if refused?Oh? You don't? But when this statement was put to you: "If a man forcibly has sex with a women against her will that is by definition rape."
Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Some people think so but I don't.
Your response was: "If someone has already given their consent then I don't see how that can be construed as rape".
What changed your mind? The wikipedia link?
Originally posted by FMFactually it was the process of reflection.
Oh? You don't? But when this statement was put to you: "If a man forcibly has sex with a women against her will that is by definition rape."
Your response was: "If someone has already given their consent then I don't see how that can be construed as rape".
What changed your mind? The wikipedia link?
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyDo you think your assertion about your God figure and "nationalism" withstands any scrutiny?
There are four divine institutions which have applied to the human race since it began with the first man and woman in the Garden of Eden [and have also been willfully violated over the centuries as well as in some nations/constitutional monarchies/countries/villages during our own lives]: [b]1) Uncoerced Volition [the exercise of free will]; 2)[ ...[text shortened]... four divine institutions or reject them [and suffer the eventual consequences]: Choice is yours.