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I cherry pick from the teachings of Jesus Christ, the bits He said were critical for eternal life.

You cherry pick from the teachings of Paul the bits that appear to justify your faith only doctrine [aka the mouth worshippers doctrine].

We all do it. Your cherry picking leads to damnation, said James. Mine leads to eternal life, said Christ.


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To clarify, you consider the Adam and Eve story as a literal account of our origin and that we didn't evolve as a species? I'm a little confused as in your follow up post you say "Meat eating is endemic throughout nature, throughout all evolution..."

So, on one hand, you speak about the fall in the garden of Eden and on the other reference evolution. Which is it?! - It's one or the other. If we evolved then there was 'no' garden of Eden, and consequently 'no' fall.



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We have already agreed that God originally prescribed man a vegetarian diet.

Clearly that was His preference for us.

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The point is, not only was that His preference at the beginning, it is also His preference at the end. Take for example Revelation 22:2: "On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations." (There are others).

So at both ends, God's preference is for man to have a vegetarian diet. It is only in this in-between time he has permitted us to eat meat and only then because we fell from our perfect state. Think of it like getting a new car and not wanting anyone to smoke inside it. Once the car has become damaged however those original high standards are diminished and you start allowing people to smoke in it. This doesn't negate your original intent for the car to be a smoking-free zone. - God remember is also unchanging and omniscient. If he created us vegetarian then that clearly is what He wants for us, in a perfect world.

In regards to the 'go kill and eat' part I strongly recommend you go read independently some bible commentaries to verify that you have missed the underlying context of that vision. If you only take away the face value of the words you have misunderstood the passage.

God's unchanging intention is for us to be vegetarian. He has merely lessened his expectations and given permission to eat meat, due to our human frailties. It, therefore, seems prudent for a Christian to follow a vegetarian diet, not because God currently expects that but because that was His divine intent, at the beginning and for the end.

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Yes, the Bible is indeed full of contradictions and distinctly 'ungodly' behaviour.

Thank you for highlighting this.



Lord, please be kind to that cursed, wayward carnivore who's lupine essence is known only unto you.

God Be Sparing
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@rajk999 said
The bible calls atheists fools. How God will judge these fools is not my concern. .. dont really care. However its not an event they will enjoy unless they were living according to the commandments of Christ, and I know some profess to accept Christ's teachings as worthy and good doctrines to follow, though they they are atheists.
I reckon I live a fairly 'good' life; I love and respect all living things, I step over ants, that kind of thing. I never deliberately do harm to or harbour ill - will toward anybody, and help quite a few people in the small Indonesian village in which I live. We've been buying sacks of rice for the villagers throughout the pandemic so that nobody goes hungry, we sponsor kids through school and university, we've built a clinic which is permanently staffed and saved a few lives that way. We bought the village a mini - bus to get the kids to school, we've done stuff. The Christian church in the village has done....Absolutely nothing. Church services have been banned recently, so the vicar preaches some kind of nonsense over the public address system, then sends her minions around the village with the collection box so that the people can donate money which they don't have to the glorification of the church.
If according to Christian doctrine it's me, Mister Atheist, who is the fool, then I'd rather be a fool.


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I wrote 'ungodly' for emphasis.

It is you who put "ungodly" in quotation marks. (See the difference? )

And your previous post very much exposed the contradictory nature of the bible and a distinctly 'ungodly' God whether you realized it or not. - Why would an omniscient and omnibenevolent God require animal sacrifices? Isn't this far more likely to be the ramblings of ancient humans wrapped up in paganistic practices?

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@indonesia-phil said
I reckon I live a fairly 'good' life; I love and respect all living things, I step over ants, that kind of thing. I never deliberately do harm to or harbour ill - will toward anybody, and help quite a few people in the small Indonesian village in which I live. We've been buying sacks of rice for the villagers throughout the pandemic so that nobody goes hungry, we spons ...[text shortened]... according to Christian doctrine it's me, Mister Atheist, who is the fool, then I'd rather be a fool.
Lol, you are a comedian. Did you read what I wrote? Why are you arguing with yourself?