1. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    30 Mar '15 20:19
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    You may consider this right in your own eyes, but in the eyes of others Atheism is a religion. 😏
    And what would you call someone with no religion?
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    30 Mar '15 21:31
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    And what would you call someone with no religion?
    someone with a belief that there is no God.
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    30 Mar '15 21:54
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    someone with a belief that there is no God.
    You can still have no religion and continue to believe in God.
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    30 Mar '15 22:17
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    You can still have no religion and continue to believe in God.
    I am not convinced this is true***.

    However you can have a religion and not believe in a god or gods [Buddhism].

    More to the point though, it should have been "lack of belief in gods" and not
    as RC said "... belief that there is no God".


    *** Is Deism a religious belief? I would contend that it is, but I suspect others may
    disagree on that point.
    It should however have been "believe in a god or gods"... and not "believe in God".
    Because we are not talking specifically about monotheistic Christianity, but about
    religious belief in general. Also, god is not a name it is a description, and shouldn't
    be capitalised.
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    30 Mar '15 22:45
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    And what would you call someone with no religion?
    Retarded. 😏
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    30 Mar '15 23:02
    Originally posted by JS357
    ANd I said "Are you [b]about to argue..."[/b]
    To which I replied, "Does that sound like I'm saying everybody has a religion?"
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    30 Mar '15 23:05
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    Should mental health patients have access to the religion of their choice?
    I'd like to bring robbie carrobie in on this one...
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    30 Mar '15 23:05
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    Dangerous is the man who thinks he has the facts.
    not just dangerous, but often mentally ill.

    I am still not convinced that the general populace understands what mental illness is. And often they are in denial of mental illness that they or their loved ones suffer.
    The pilot who crashed into the mountain is a good example of seemingly good people (pilot) who were dangerous and mentally ill who flew under the radar , no sweat.
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    30 Mar '15 23:13
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    The pilot who crashed into the mountain is a good example of seemingly good people (pilot) who were dangerous and mentally ill who flew under the radar , no sweat.
    He was only "dangerous" because he was allowed to fly a plane, not because he was mentally ill.
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    31 Mar '15 00:07
    Originally posted by divegeester
    He was only "dangerous" because he was allowed to fly a plane, not because he was mentally ill.
    So are you saying people with certain mental health issues aren't dangerous?
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    31 Mar '15 00:09
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    Dangerous is the man who thinks he has the facts.
    Is that a fact?
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    31 Mar '15 00:13
    Originally posted by josephw
    So are you saying people with certain mental health issues aren't dangerous?
    It's seems pretty clear that divegeester was talking about Andreas Lubitz, no?
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    31 Mar '15 00:25
    Originally posted by josephw
    So are you saying people with certain mental health issues aren't dangerous?
    No, I'm saying that the guy who crashed the plane into the mountain was only dangerous because he was permitted to fly a plane, not because he was mentally I'll.
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    31 Mar '15 00:27
    Originally posted by FMF
    It's seems pretty clear that divegeester was talking about Andreas Lubitz, no?
    Yes of course. Unless whodey knows of there being other airliners which have been crashed into mountains since I've been offline.
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    31 Mar '15 00:29
    Originally posted by josephw
    So are you saying people with certain mental health issues aren't dangerous?
    But at the risk of you feeling I'm avoiding your point, which is what you do repeatedly by the way, yes of course, some people with "certain mental illnesses" are inherently dangerous.
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