Monogamy

Originally posted by @eladar
You said that adultery is immoral die to societal values, even if the person who does it does not hold to those values.

Please quote me. (Rather than telling me what i said).

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Some pro polygamist said something along those lines, hence my question in the OP. It's a good question though worth asking them.

But the OP was not made by "some pro polygamist," but by you. How can we discuss an ill-defined proposition?

But let us look more closely at our "innate" nature. Two aspects come to mind:
I) Is what is in our "innate nature" also the morally right thing to do, necessarily?
II) What is our "innate nature" like? It's actually not clear how common polygamy was in the history of mankind, although high-status males in settled societies did often have multiple wives.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Why conflate the two? A marital affair denotes deception/betrayal. Polygamy, between consenting adults, does not.

There you go. Adultery is betrayal.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Not personally, but don't judge other adults for choosing to do so.

So it's wrong for you but not for others?

Originally posted by @eladar
In other words you disagree with everything I say but can't refute it.

In the end you are correct in that we can't have a discussion because we have no common ground. Congrats on your ability to see that truth.

It is difficult to disagree with you when you prattle on without making a point,
tell others what they think then argue against what you think they think and all
your other nonsense.

Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
But the OP was not made by "some pro polygamist," but by you. How can we discuss an ill-defined proposition?

But let us look more closely at our "innate" nature. Two aspects come to mind:
I) Is what is in our "innate nature" also the morally right thing to do, necessarily?
II) What is our "innate nature" like? It's actually not clear how common p ...[text shortened]... story of mankind, although high-status males in settled societies did often have multiple wives.

Do you think polygamy is morally acceptable or not?

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
No. 😴

When is deception/betrayal morally acceptable?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
When is deception/betrayal morally acceptable?

Are you asking Mr X or Mr Y?

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Are you asking Mr X or Mr Y?

I am asking you what your personal preference is. 😉

Originally posted by @dj2becker
I am asking you what your personal preference is. 😉

Personally, it would be morally acceptable to betray or deceive if the outcome was of higher moral value, say to save someone's life.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Personally, it would be morally acceptable to betray or deceive if the outcome was of higher moral value, say to save someone's life.

Since you assign moral value in the first place, you could therefore justify anything as long as you assign a higher moral value to the outcome. So it boils down to personal preference once again.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Since you assign moral value in the first place, you could therefore justify anything as long as you assign a higher moral value to the outcome. So it boils down to personal preference once again.

No. it doesn't.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
No. it doesn't.

So who then assigns a greater moral value to saving a life if not you? What if the life was that of a mass murderer and the betrayal/deceit was was that of your wife?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
So who then assigns a greater moral value to saving a life if not you? What if the life was that of a mass murderer and the betrayal/deceit was was that of your wife?

Do you not think it is a commonly shared moral value that saving a life is more important than not being deceptive?


And please stop referencing my wife, or jog on.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Do you think polygamy is morally acceptable or not?

I think people should be able to have whatever relationships they want, given that they are consenting adults of sound mind and judgement (relatively speaking). There is no room for this to be "immoral" if no one is worse off.