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    21 Aug '08 13:381 edit
    Since a number of people complain about the length of my posts, this thread will I dedicate to my shortest possible answers and statements.

    The truth is in Jesus.
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    21 Aug '08 14:291 edit
    Originally posted by jaywill
    .... The truth is in Jesus.
    Jesus taught salvation through WORKS.
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    21 Aug '08 14:30
    Originally posted by jaywill
    The truth is in Jesus.
    And Paul ?
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    21 Aug '08 15:30
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Jesus taught salvation through WORKS.
    Can people who can't work be saved?
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    21 Aug '08 16:05
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Jesus taught salvation through WORKS.
    The work of Jesus is for Him to work Himself into your being.
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    21 Aug '08 16:06
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    Can people who can't work be saved?
    Salvation is for God to work Jesus Christ INTO your being.

    He works. We open and receive.
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    21 Aug '08 16:071 edit
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    And Paul ?
    Paul was in Jesus where the truth is.
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    21 Aug '08 16:33
    Originally posted by jaywill
    .. He works. We open and receive.
    ... and we do and work like He showed us.
    Because if we dont, we dont believe.
    DOING, WORKING IS THE PROOF.
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    21 Aug '08 16:47
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    ... and we do and work like He showed us.
    Because if we dont, we dont believe.
    DOING, WORKING IS THE PROOF.
    Can people who can't work prove that they are saved?
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    21 Aug '08 17:19
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    ... and we do and work like He showed us.
    Because if we dont, we dont believe.
    DOING, WORKING IS THE PROOF.
    There is some truth to that. Fatih without works is dead.

    However, it is not what we do. It is through Whom we do it and in Whose person we derive our source of life.
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    21 Aug '08 17:26
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    Can people who can't work prove that they are saved?
    Christ knows the heart of man, and he will judge accordingly.
    There is'nt a Yes or No answer to your question.
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    21 Aug '08 17:26
    Ahhh, one of the classics--right up there with free will vs. omniscient God and double predestinayion. I think that this very year, the Catholic church decreed that their "fallen brethren" are correct in that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. See? Even the Pope has come around! 🙂
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    21 Aug '08 17:29
    Originally posted by jaywill
    There is some truth to that. Fatih without works is dead.

    However, it is not what we do. It is through Whom we do it and in Whose person we derive our source of life.
    Regardless, we still have to DO. Is DOING optional ?
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    21 Aug '08 17:411 edit
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Regardless, we still have to DO. Is DOING optional ?
    God only wants what Christ DOES in you.

    "It is no longer I that lives, but it is Christ Who lives in me."

    There is one human being who satisfies God and one only - His Son Jesus.

    When Jesus gets into you, uniting with Him and He with you, makes your living OUT FROM Him acceptable to God.
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    21 Aug '08 18:09
    Originally posted by jaywill
    God only wants what Christ DOES in you.

    [b]"It is no longer I that lives, but it is Christ Who lives in me."


    There is one human being who satisfies God and one only - His Son Jesus.

    When Jesus gets into you, uniting with Him and He with you, makes your living OUT FROM Him acceptable to God.[/b]
    So 'doing' is optional.
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