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Originally posted by RJHindsMormon beliefs are no more or less credible than your religionist 'folklore' package is.
Well, at least, now you have finally said something that I can
totally agree with you. Yes, they are all a problem because
they distract from the truth and helps Satan with his fight
for man's soul.
Originally posted by RJHindsWhat folklore do you believe in..... a boat containing all the animals of the world, walking on water, talking snakes, talking burning bushes, parting the Red Sea, raising the dead?
Well, at least, now you have finally said something that I can
totally agree with you. Yes, they are all a problem because
they distract from the truth and helps Satan with his fight
for man's soul.
Seems to me that if you can believe in these things and call finding gold plates in a hill crazy, you need to have your head examined. My parents are Mormon. Although I don't agree with their religion, I respect them. They have some pretty out there ideas, but so do you.
Go ahead and say how your God is the best and all other religions are wrong (Mormons do that too), the only difference between them and you is a few stories and a better attitude.
Originally posted by usmc7257They add to and subtract from the word of God, just as Satan does.
What folklore do you believe in..... a boat containing all the animals of the world, walking on water, talking snakes, talking burning bushes, parting the Red Sea, raising the dead?
Seems to me that if you can believe in these things and call finding gold plates in a hill crazy, you need to have your head examined. My parents are Mormon. Although I do ...[text shortened]... do that too), the only difference between them and you is a few stories and a better attitude.
This proves to me a Satanic influence on Joseph Smith and that
the angel of light that He claims appeared to him is either his
imagination or Satan appearing as an angel of light as the Holy
Bible states.
Originally posted by RJHindsYou are right, that is odd. Why would God appear before man as himself rather than a burning bush? I'm not saying it is true, merely saying that it is just as believable as your story.
They add to and subtract from the word of God, just as Satan does.
This proves to me a Satanic influence on Joseph Smith and that
the angel of light that He claims appeared to him is either his
imagination or Satan appearing as an angel of light as the Holy
Bible states.
Originally posted by usmc7257God is invisible. God only made the bush appear to be burning,
You are right, that is odd. Why would God appear before man as himself rather than a burning bush? I'm not saying it is true, merely saying that it is just as believable as your story.
without being consumed, in order to get the attention of Moses.
Read the account yourself.
Originally posted by RJHindsI've read the bible. That doesn't mean I have to check my brain at the door as you do when you try to discuss it with people. You do your religion a great disservice.
God is invisible. God only made the bush appear to be burning,
without being consumed, in order to get the attention of Moses.
Read the account yourself.
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Originally posted by usmc7257I am only an imperfect human with many flaws, so I try to do my best.
I've read the bible. That doesn't mean I have to check my brain at the door as you do when you try to discuss it with people. You do your religion a great disservice.
You are welcome to help, if you wish.
Originally posted by usmc7257I am only an imperfect human with many flaws, so I try to do my best.
I've read the bible. That doesn't mean I have to check my brain at the door as you do when you try to discuss it with people. You do your religion a great disservice.
You are welcome to help, if you wish.
Originally posted by FabianFnasOh please. "You are indoctrinated".
Your words mean nothing. Not worth commenting. You are indoctrinated. Nothing more.
Where has this become such a level of discussion? Your comment "Your words mean nothing. Not worth commenting. You are indoctrinated. Nothing more." but then actually making a comment doesn't really make you sound any better now does it?
Kids!
Originally posted by RJHindsRJHinds, people actually really believe such things. I remember discussing this a while back here on RHP.
Did your imagined advanced alien also create the heavens and the earth
and all living things? If so, perhaps you just have a different mental
view of God and His angels.
I have actually read something interesting in the Bible...could this be aliens...?? A long read but just to say that I don't believe in aliens, and that many people believe in aliens but are blinded by many factors but yeah okay... read now.
New King James Version (NKJV)
Ezekiel 1
Ezekiel’s Vision of God
1 Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, on the fifth day of the month, as I was among the captives by the River Chebar, that the heavens were opened and I saw visions of God.
2 On the fifth day of the month, which was in the fifth year of King Jehoiachin’s captivity,
3 the word of the LORD came expressly to Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the River Chebar; and the hand of the LORD was upon him there.
4 Then I looked, and behold, a whirlwind was coming out of the north, a great cloud with raging fire engulfing itself; and brightness was all around it and radiating out of its midst like the color of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
5 Also from within it came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: they had the likeness of a man.
6 Each one had four faces, and each one had four wings.
7 Their legs were straight, and the soles of their feet were like the soles of calves’ feet. They sparkled like the color of burnished bronze.
8 The hands of a man were under their wings on their four sides; and each of the four had faces and wings.
9 Their wings touched one another. The creatures did not turn when they went, but each one went straight forward.
10 As for the likeness of their faces, each had the face of a man; each of the four had the face of a lion on the right side, each of the four had the face of an ox on the left side, and each of the four had the face of an eagle.
11 Thus were their faces. Their wings stretched upward; two wings of each one touched one another, and two covered their bodies.
12 And each one went straight forward; they went wherever the spirit wanted to go, and they did not turn when they went.
13 As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, like the appearance of torches going back and forth among the living creatures. The fire was bright, and out of the fire went lightning.
14 And the living creatures ran back and forth, in appearance like a flash of lightning.
15 Now as I looked at the living creatures, behold, a wheel was on the earth beside each living creature with its four faces.
16 The appearance of the wheels and their workings was like the color of beryl, and all four had the same likeness. The appearance of their workings was, as it were, a wheel in the middle of a wheel.
17 When they moved, they went toward any one of four directions; they did not turn aside when they went.
18 As for their rims, they were so high they were awesome; and their rims were full of eyes, all around the four of them.
19 When the living creatures went, the wheels went beside them; and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.
20 Wherever the spirit wanted to go, they went, because there the spirit went; and the wheels were lifted together with them, for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.
21 When those went, these went; when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up together with them, for the spirit of the living creatures[d]was in the wheels.
22 The likeness of the firmament above the heads of the living creatures was like the color of an awesome crystal, stretched out over their heads.
23 And under the firmament their wings spread out straight, one toward another. Each one had two which covered one side, and each one had two which covered the other side of the body.
24 When they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of many waters, like the voice of the Almighty, a tumult like the noise of an army; and when they stood still, they let down their wings.
25 A voice came from above the firmament that was over their heads; whenever they stood, they let down their wings.
26 And above the firmament over their heads was the likeness of a throne, in appearance like a sapphire stone; on the likeness of the throne was a likeness with the appearance of a man high above it.
27 Also from the appearance of His waist and upward I saw, as it were, the color of amber with the appearance of fire all around within it; and from the appearance of His waist and downward I saw, as it were, the appearance of fire with brightness all around.
28 Like the appearance of a rainbow in a cloud on a rainy day, so was the appearance of the brightness all around it. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD.
My two cents... a vision..period.
Originally posted by NickstenOh, he can take it. He is very offensive when he is drunk. When he's sobered up he can be quite nice.
Oh please. "You are indoctrinated".
Where has this become such a level of discussion? Your comment "[b]Your words mean nothing. Not worth commenting. You are indoctrinated. Nothing more." but then actually making a comment doesn't really make you sound any better now does it?
Kids![/b]
Acutally he invented the expression, "indoctrinated", and he gives it when he cannot answer questions given to him. It's usually then when he becomes insulting.
So, don't worry. It's a part of the jargon he uses, and when others use the same jargon against him, he ususally whines.
He can take it.
