Originally posted by daniel58No, I'm saying 2+2=4 is notation, NOT a fact nor something that is inherently true.
notation; a series or system of written symbols used to represent numbers, amounts, or elements in something such as music or mathematics, so you are saying facts aren't facts if you have a false, problematic or theoretical notation?
And you're failing to understand.
Originally posted by daniel58Do you even know what notation means? 2+2=4 is a piece of notation. The act of giving me an apple is not.
Okay so let's say you are given only an apple a day to live on, every day from now on a take that apple, does that mean that you won't starve because it's just a notation?
Originally posted by daniel58I'm guessing you don't have a degree on maths, now do you?
No I don't give you the apple somebody else does so you have one apple = 1, I take the apple 1 take away 1, now you have no apple 1-1=0, that's a notation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_notation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formalism_(mathematics)
as opposed to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_realism#Mathematical_realism