NZ gay marriage act

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
making a mockery of the marital arrangement is my view, but that homosexuality is contrary to nature, no that is a Biblical point of view.

Well I am pleased to hear that "homosexuality is contrary to nature" is not your personal point of view [although I admit to being somewhat surprised]. Meanwhile, I think that you are perfectly entitled to think gay marriage is "making a mockery of the marital arrangement". I don't think you will be able to prevent language and culture from changing.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
is this what it has come to, man, is it any wonder i have no pockets left on any of my jeans?

do you support the biblical view that rapists should pay 50 sheckels? if not why do you think this can be changed but rules about marriage cannot?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
gee, forgive me for not sharing your enthusiasm.

I wouldn't expect you to have any enthusiasm at all for ending the kind of discrimination against homosexuals that is seen in countries like Indonesia.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
do you support the biblical view that rapists should pay 50 sheckels? if not why do you think this can be changed but rules about marriage cannot?

because rules of marriage have never changed, whereas the mosaic law is now obsolete in practice. Do you think that a rapist in lets say, New York should pay 50 shekels?

Originally posted by FMF
I wouldn't expect you to have any enthusiasm at all for ending the kind of discrimination against homosexuals that is seen in countries like Indonesia.

dude there is a simple solution, they should stop putting their willies where God never intended them to be.

Originally posted by FMF
Well I am pleased to hear that "homosexuality is contrary to nature" is not your personal point of view [although I admit to being somewhat surprised]. Meanwhile, I think that you are perfectly entitled to think gay marriage is "making a mockery of the marital arrangement". I don't think you will be able to prevent language and culture from changing.

nor a moral stance being framed by decree it seems with no guarantees for those who object to that moral stance.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
because rules of marriage have never changed, whereas the mosaic law is now obsolete in practice. Do you think that a rapist in lets say, New York should pay 50 shekels?

who decided that 50 shekels for rape was obsolete? what was the purpose of having such a law and why get rid of it?

Originally posted by FMF
I wouldn't expect you to have any enthusiasm at all for ending the kind of discrimination against homosexuals that is seen in countries like Indonesia.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
dude there is a simple solution, they should stop putting their willies where God never intended them to be.

Is this your personal point of view?

Originally posted by FMF
Is this your personal point of view?

no its the Biblical point of view.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
who decided that 50 shekels for rape was obsolete? what was the purpose of having such a law and why get rid of it?

trust me dude, its obsolete, we are under a new covenant (agreement)

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no its the Biblical point of view.

Is your personal point of view the same as "the Biblical point of view"?

Originally posted by FMF
Is your personal point of view the same as "the Biblical point of view"?

please dude, thats personal.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
please dude, thats personal.

So you are unable to personally endorse "the Biblical point of view"?

Originally posted by FMF
So you are unable to personally endorse "the Biblical point of view"?

It is what it is FMF, why it should make a difference whether I personally endorse it is relevant, how?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
It is what it is FMF, why it should make a difference whether I personally endorse it is relevant, how?

All the views I express are my own. I am open and honest and forthright. I do not hedge. I do not try to distance myself from the views I express. I do not hide behind them being someone else's. On the contrary, you will not tell us what your personal views are and you refuse to endorse the "the Biblical point of view". People will make what they will of this peculiar stance you take where your personal point of view is hidden like a secret and you cannot bring yourself to unequivocally state whether you personally agree or disagree with the "the Biblical point of view".