Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo you say. OK. What evidence do you have that young people who do not approve of homosexuality have been "ridiculed" to the point that they have committed suicide?
I am only interested in evidence.
[robbie: "One could of course go through these assertions like 'ridiculing causes no harm', and cite instances where young people have committed suicide because of persistent ridiculing at school..."]
Originally posted by robbie carrobieoriginal post no i have no issues.
no i have no issues. seriously i dont, except a sore head and a sore throat, probably from chemicals i inhaled while plastering a newly wed friends living room last week.
1st edit no i have no issues. seriously i dont, except a sore head and a sore throat,
2nd edit no i have no issues. seriously i dont, except a sore head and a sore throat, probably from chemicals i inhaled while plastering a newly wed friends living room last week.
In fact, you raised seven issues which clearly cause you concern. Do you share my stance on any of them? I'm interested to hear.
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Originally posted by FMFI have not said that young people who do not approve of homosexuality have been ridiculed to the point where they have committed suicide, its a product of your pretzel factory mind,
So you say. OK. What evidence do you have that young people who do not approve of homosexuality have been "ridiculed" to the point that they have committed suicide?
[robbie: "One could of course go through these assertions like 'ridiculing causes no harm', and cite instances where young people have committed suicide because of persistent ridiculing at school..."]
your statement was, 'ridicule (unspecified) is not harmful', clearly this is untrue based on evidence, for even where i live there have been instances where young persons have taken their own life because of persistent ridicule and only recently in the UK , a nurse took her own life because of ridicule.
Where is your evidence to the contrary?
Originally posted by FMFyes i am feeling unwell, what about it?
original post [b]no i have no issues.
1st edit no i have no issues. seriously i dont, except a sore head and a sore throat,
2nd edit no i have no issues. seriously i dont, except a sore head and a sore throat, probably from chemicals i inhaled while plastering a newly wed friends living room last week.
In fact, you raised seven iss ...[text shortened]... which clearly cause you concern. Do you share my stance on any of them? I'm interested to hear.[/b]
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat I wrote was Ridicule is not "harm". In and of itself, it is not. If someone is bullied to death, then that death is "harm". Your first post on this thread was "wow, why dont you sport a leotard, paint yourself gold, put on a set of angel wings, tone up your muscles and join a gay parade to celebrate?" Do these words of ridicule constitute "harm"? No, of course they don't.
your statement was, 'ridicule (unspecified) is not harmful', clearly this is untrue based on evidence, for even where i live there have been instances where young persons have taken their own life because of persistent ridicule and only recently in the UK , a nurse took her own life because of ridicule.
So do you agree with me when I say that parents should be able to send their child to a different school if they want to and for their own reasons. If they are ridiculed by somebody, somewhere for doing so, that's life?
Originally posted by robbie carrobie[Off Topic]
yes i am feeling unwell, what about it?
If you still have head pains and respiratory or throat problems a WEEK after being around chemicals then you may have a relatively serious problem. In fact, when I saw you adding little irrelevant 'chatty' bits to your original post, what came to mind was stellspalfie's reference to telltale "glibness/superficial charm" earlier on this thread. If you are feeling unwell for the reasons you have stated, you should perhaps get treatment as soon as possible.
Originally posted by FMF'thats life', is not evidence, is it. Persistent ridicule is harmful.
What I wrote was [b]Ridicule is not "harm". In and of itself, it is not. If someone is bullied to death, then that death is "harm". Your first post on this thread was "wow, why dont you sport a leotard, paint yourself gold, put on a set of angel wings, tone up your muscles and join a gay parade to celebrate?" Do these words of ridicule constitute "har ...[text shortened]... r own reasons. If they are ridiculed by somebody, somewhere for doing so, that's life?[/b]
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Originally posted by FMFI will if its not lifted after a few days, problem was that the property had Artex ( a kind of eighties decorative form like plaster but stippled) which at one time used to contain asbestos. I dont think this was the case here but you never know. Anyway, I am sorry to bore you with these details and if you found them glib, then what can i say, i am a friendly guy.
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If you still have head pains and respiratory or throat problems a WEEK after being around chemicals then you may have a relatively serious problem. In fact, when I saw you adding little irrelevant 'chatty' bits to your original post, what came to mind was stellspalfie's reference to telltale "glibness/superficial charm" earlier on this thread. If ...[text shortened]... well for the reasons you have stated, you should perhaps get treatment as soon as possible.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie"That's life" is a figure of speech which means that these things happen. Anyone and everyone's life is "evidence" that people get ridiculed for the decisions they make and the views they hold.
'thats life', is not evidence, is it. Persistent ridicule is harmful.
"Persistent ridicule is harmful". I am sure it can be. I am sure there are many who just ignore it. I am against bullying. Do you share this stance?
Originally posted by FMFnaturally.
"That's life" is a figure of speech which means that these things happen. Anyone and everyone's life is "evidence" that people get ridiculed for the decisions they make and the views they hold.
"Persistent ridicule is harmful". I am sure it can be. I am sure there are many who just ignore it. I am against bullying. Do you share this stance?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt's just odd that they crop up in a discussion where you are refusing to take a stance in issues you yourself raised, you are trying to keep your personal opinions secret, and you have refused to endorse the "Biblical point of view" or even state whether it coincides with your own personal view. If you want to see what stellspalfie was referring to you should go back and take a look at what he said.
Anyway, I am sorry to bore you with these details and if you found them glib, then what can i say, i am a friendly guy.