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Originally posted by RJHinds
I would say, perhaps if a gay couple wants to get married and one of them would get a sex change operation, then it might not be so objectionable, because then they would be of the opposite sex as it is defined in marriage.
bwahaha, you're insane

please tell me you're joking

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I would say, perhaps if a gay couple wants to get married and one of them would get a sex change operation, then it might not be so objectionable, because then they would be of the opposite sex as it is defined in marriage.
so gender in the eyes of god is purely about what you have shoved down your pants?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie


(Colossians 2:13, 14) by nailing it to the torture stake.

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Originally posted by Zahlanzi
bwahaha, you're insane

please tell me you're joking
No he is not joking. I assume that also means he would not object to his gay son getting a sex change operation.

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Originally posted by FMF
[b]I am uninterested in trading opinions FMF, I am interested in facts and evidence, have I not made that clear enough. What is it about that which is so difficult to grasp? Why must you construe some kind of secrecy? why must you construe that one is not capable of taking responsibility simply because they wish to remain detached? i dont understand this spi nions", surely? Several people have been disagreeing with your opinion. You must have noticed.
nope its the Biblical stance, why you fail to realise this once gain i have no idea, there is no provision in scripture for any type of marital arrangement other than male and female. It is also the natural state of affairs is is evidenced by practice in every culture throughout the entire recorded history of humanity except in this epoch of secularism and materialism.

Indeed they spout their opinions as some kind of self evident reality, usually unsubstantiated and generally biased, but hey, it might be good enough for them and you, its not good enough for me, sorry.

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Originally posted by RBHILL
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what is your gripe that the translation mentions a torture stake, Greek 'sturos', rather than the pagan emblem of a cross? what evidence do you have that Christ was crucified with a crossbeam?


Originally posted by robbie carrobie
nope its the Biblical stance, why you fail to realise this once gain i have no idea, there is no provision in scripture for any type of marital arrangement other than male and female. It is also the natural state of affairs is is evidenced by practice in every culture throughout the entire recorded history of humanity except in this epoch of secular ...[text shortened]... ly biased, but hey, it might be good enough for them and you, its not good enough for me, sorry.
Alas, there is diddly squat you can about it, apart from rant on a chess website forum about the 'Biblical stance'. Society has moved on from your stories contained in ancient Jewish folklore, much like Spanish football has found out over the last 48 hours, you have been surpassed by something better.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
Alas, there is diddly squat you can about it, apart from rant on a chess website forum about the 'Biblical stance'. Society has moved on from your stories contained in ancient Jewish folklore, much like Spanish football has found out over the last 48 hours, you have been surpassed by something better.
what has happened in Spanish football, i have been watching the IPL? I dont stress about it, as i have mentioned, they will reap what they sow.


Are you gay? Are you queer?
Are you a puff? Are you a pig's ear?
What's that? There's talk of marriage?
Better take a look at the undercarriage.

No church wedding for a ginger beer,
a civil ceremony is all you get here.
There are more important things in this recession
than your love and rights of succession.

Religious freaks and lawyers too.
They all stand in the way of you.
No adoption, no marriage, no welcome.
Go back under your rock where you came from.

None out there shall comprehend,
he's more to you not just a friend.
Is it real love or is it fake?
years ago you'd be burnt at the stake.

But when in the end all is said and done,
will you win when the race is run?
You can place your argument before me,
but you'll never convince Robbie Carrobie.

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Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
Are you gay? Are you queer?
Are you a puff? Are you a pig's ear?
What's that? There's talk of marriage?
Better take a look at the undercarriage.

No church wedding for a ginger beer,
a civil ceremony is all you get here.
There are more important things in this recession
than your love and rights of succession.

Religious freaks and lawyer s run?
You can place your argument before me,
but you'll never convince Robbie Carrobie.
Its unnatural and anti Biblical and may even be harmful, it has nothing to do with Robbie Carrobie.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Its unnatural and anti Biblical and may even be harmful, it has nothing to do with Robbie Carrobie.
Mmm, yes I see. It's got SO much "nothing to do with Robbie Carrobie" that he can't even bring himself to take an unequivocal personal stance on related issues such as parental rights, freedom of speech, the rights of people who disapprove of homosexuality, teachers' responsibilities, freedom to transact business as one wishes, legal and financial liabilities etc. What a peculiar demonstration of someone who claims to be a free moral agent who "values the free exercise of the faculty of conscience"! Well done for saying you were against bullying in schools, though. At least you came out and expressed a fearless personal view on that. And you're bang on target. Children getting bullied is bad.

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Originally posted by FMF
Mmm, yes I see. It's got SO much "nothing to do with Robbie Carrobie" that he can't even bring himself to take an unequivocal personal stance on related issues such as parental rights, freedom of speech, the rights of people who disapprove of homosexuality, teachers' responsibilities, freedom to transact business as one wishes, legal and financial liabilities et ...[text shortened]... rless personal view on that. And you're bang on target. Children getting bullied is bad.
dont mention it.

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Originally posted by FMF
Mmm, yes I see. It's got SO much "nothing to do with Robbie Carrobie" that he can't even bring himself to take an unequivocal personal stance on related issues such as parental rights, freedom of speech, the rights of people who disapprove of homosexuality, teachers' responsibilities, freedom to transact business as one wishes, legal and financial liabilities et ...[text shortened]... rless personal view on that. And you're bang on target. Children getting bullied is bad.
On the plus side, he is a hell of a guitar player.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
there is no conclusive study which has proven a genetic factor that predisposes one towards homosexual behaviour
So what?
I thought the latest was that events in the womb are much more likely to cause
various gender and orientation differences.

Regardless of the cause I still cannot get over your panic, you can use all your
arguments against condoning gay marriage within the JWs, but quite frankly
what goes on outside has nothing to do with your silly book and antiquated
views.

btw: ANZAC Day here in NZ ... I would like to think freedoms are worth celebrating today.

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Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
Are you gay? Are you queer?
Are you a puff? Are you a pig's ear?
What's that? There's talk of marriage?
Better take a look at the undercarriage.

No church wedding for a ginger beer,
a civil ceremony is all you get here.
There are more important things in this recession
than your love and rights of succession.

Religious freaks and lawyer ...[text shortened]... s run?
You can place your argument before me,
but you'll never convince Robbie Carrobie.
nice.

your work entirely or you just worked out the last verses?