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Originally posted by robbie carrobieand why do hetrosexuals get h.i.v. have they being putting their willies where they shouldnt? why is it much easier for a women to get h.i.v than a man?
Perhaps because you have sanctioned a practice which is essentially hurtful and ultimately preventable, just think if all those gays hadn't put their willies where they were not supposed to be they might not have gotten HIV, dont you think?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhen will you ever get it through your thick head that what it says in the bible is so simplistic those old adages cannot be relevant to today's world. The biggest thing they had to worry about back in ancient times was leprosy. Try going back in a time machine and see what they would think of Ebola, HIV, H1N2, and the like. There is NOTHING in the bible to cover all that is there?
Actually the Bible states that its unnatural but a reprobate like you would not know that, because you first would have to read it and second know what you were talking about. Words speak for themselves, isn't that what they are supposed to do, gee, are you in your senses this day? skipped some meds?
And I see you have never answered the fact that hetro's in Africa get Aids at LEAST as frequently as gays. That kind of skewers your objections doesn't it.
So I'm waiting for your 'Yeah, but.....
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Originally posted by stellspalfieanother irrelevancy, they must receive treatment in order to do so, had they not put their willies where they were never intended to be, this would not have been a problem, this is he tragedy of the case, and here you are, sanctioning an essentially harmful practice by decree.
as ive pointed out to you before (and you choose to ignore) male h.i.v. sufferers in the u.k. have the same life span as any other male. infact a male h.i.v. sufferer in the u.k. has a higher life span than the average scottish male.
my concern with h.i.v. is the parts of the world where it is killing people by the millions, which happens to be afric ...[text shortened]... on only british statistics does this mean you only want british people to stop being homosexual?
Both homosexual practice and illicit sexual practice have contributed to the spread of HIV in Africa, this would have been ultimately preventable had those persons who engaged in illicit sex whether homosexual and heterosexual had refrained from doing so. Innocent people are suffering, wives who had remained faithful to promiscuous husbands and children infected during pregnancy have suffered as a direct consequence of the infidelity of husbands. Both forms of illicit sex, homosexuality and fornication/adultery are condemned in scripture and had this been applied, then those innocent women and children might not have suffered.
But here you are, ignoring that wise and ultimately particle counsel and are attempting to legitimise a practice that is harmful and has caused millions of persons untold misery! and we are told that it should be a cause for celebration, dear oh dear oh dear, it doesn't bode well for you.
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Originally posted by sonhouselets see, if person had applied the Bibles wise counsel to refrain from illicit sexual activity (homosexual and heterosexual) would they have contracted HIV? would their chances not have been radically reduced and here you are, advocating a practice that is essentially harmful and has caused the deaths of untold thousands, nay , millions of people, tell you what, see when you come back from da moon and you are in your senses, then we should talk.
When will you ever get it through your thick head that what it says in the bible is so simplistic those old adages cannot be relevant to today's world. The biggest thing they had to worry about back in ancient times was leprosy. Try going back in a time machine and see what they would think of Ebola, HIV, H1N2, and the like. There is NOTHING in the bible to hat kind of skewers your objections doesn't it.
So I'm waiting for your 'Yeah, but.....
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Originally posted by Proper KnobIf you say so, although i suspect that Gods wrath/anger is somewhat different from that kind of uncontrollable anger referenced to in the book of Proverbs. I would not mock God if I were you, its not wise, you may live to regret it. Look at all these HIV sufferers who failed to take his advice.
It seems that God is, by his own definition, a fool.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobiepeople receive treatments for many things, it hardly enough to condemn people because they need to receive treatment. scotland has a huge problem with alcohol and obesity much higher than the global average and scottish people need to receive treatments for these illness...........yet i dont think for a moment that you think people should stop drinking alcohol or eating pizza, no you would say people need to eat and drink safely. your message to homosexuals (and hetrosexuals) should be to practice safe sex.
another irrelevancy, they must receive treatment in order to do so, had they not put their willies where they were never intended to be, this would not have been a problem, this is he tragedy of the case, and here you are, sanctioning an essentially harmful practice by decree.
Both homosexual practice and illicit sexual practice have contributed t ...[text shortened]... that it should be a cause for celebration, dear oh dear oh dear, it doesn't bode well for you.
so when a hetrosexual person get h.i.v. its because of promiscuity, but when a homosexual gets h.i.v. its because of anal sex????? you must have a pretty poor education if you think using such logical inconsistencies passes as a coherent argument.
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Originally posted by stellspalfiesee above. Drinking alcohol in moderation and eating Pizza are not condemned in scripture, putting your willy where its not intended to be is, however.
people receive treatments for many things, it hardly enough to condemn people because they need to receive treatment. scotland has a huge problem with alcohol and obesity much higher than the global average and scottish people need to receive treatments for these illness...........yet i dont think for a moment that you think people should stop drinking ...[text shortened]... ty poor education if you think using such logical inconsistencies passes as a coherent argument.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobie'But here you are, ignoring that wise and ultimately particle counsel and are attempting to legitimise a practice that is harmful and has caused millions of persons untold misery!'
another irrelevancy, they must receive treatment in order to do so, had they not put their willies where they were never intended to be, this would not have been a problem, this is he tragedy of the case, and here you are, sanctioning an essentially harmful practice by decree.
Both homosexual practice and illicit sexual practice have contributed t ...[text shortened]... that it should be a cause for celebration, dear oh dear oh dear, it doesn't bode well for you.
Gonorrhea
Hepatitis B
Herpes
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
Intestinal Parasites
Molluscum Contagiosum
Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID)
Pubic Lice (Crabs)
Scabies
Syphilis
Trichomoniasis (Trich)
Chancroid
Chlamydia
Cytomegalovirus (CMV)
a small list of sexually transmitted diseases that have caused hetrosexuals untold suffering for thousands of years.
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Originally posted by stellspalfieIndeed which is why he Bibles wise and practical counsel is to refrain from illicit sex, fornication (sex without marriage, including so called casual sex) adultery (sex with someone who is not your marital partner while in a marriage union), homosexuality etc, apply the Biblical counsel and you will contract none of these things. Good health to you!
'But here you are, ignoring that wise and ultimately particle counsel and are attempting to legitimise a practice that is harmful and has caused millions of persons untold misery!'
Gonorrhea
Hepatitis B
Herpes
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
Intestinal Parasites
Molluscum Contagiosum
Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID)
Pubic Lice (Crabs)
Scabies
...[text shortened]... ly transmitted diseases that have caused hetrosexuals untold suffering for thousands of years.