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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Here is a question for you opponents of the scared text, if those persons had applied the Biblical advice to refrain from illicit sexual practice, whether homosexual or heterosexual, would they now be suffering with HIV?
yes some would. h.i.v. can be passed in many ways, including many non-sex related ways and vaginal sex.

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Originally posted by stellspalfie
people receive treatments for many things, it hardly enough to condemn people because they need to receive treatment. scotland has a huge problem with alcohol and obesity much higher than the global average and scottish people need to receive treatments for these illness...........yet i dont think for a moment that you think people should stop drinking ...[text shortened]... ty poor education if you think using such logical inconsistencies passes as a coherent argument.
Do you think your advice to practice safe sex is working?

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Originally posted by stellspalfie
yes some would. h.i.v. can be passed in many ways, including many non-sex related ways and vaginal sex.
yes i am sure, but the vast majority is through illicit sexual activity and in the beginning, drug abuse, which you will be glad to know is also condemned in scripture. See how solid, wise, good, practical and healthy applying the Bibles advice can be and yet, you have rejected it and are now in an uncontrollable gay parade of political fashion victims. It does not bode well for you people.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
If you say so, although i suspect that Gods wrath/anger is somewhat different from that kind of uncontrollable anger referenced to in the book of Proverbs. I would not mock God if I were you, its not wise, you may live to regret it. Look at all these HIV sufferers who failed to take his advice.
I see, so God has a different kind of anger from the anger we understand. And we're also unsure as to how a spirit can experience anger in the first place. 😕

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
I see, so God has a different kind of anger from the anger we understand. And we're also unsure as to how a spirit can experience anger in the first place. 😕
yes, i suspect that this may be the case although i have not researched it.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
I see, so God has a different kind of anger from the anger we understand. And we're also unsure as to how a spirit can experience anger in the first place. 😕
Some of the reasons why it is different in Gods case.

Anger may be justified or unjustified. On Gods part, his anger is always justified, being based on principle dictated by his right to exclusive devotion and his constancy in upholding truth; it is governed by his love for righteousness and for those practising righteousness. Divine anger does not stem from a momentary whim, to be later regretted. Jehovah sees all the issues involved in a matter and has complete, entire knowledge of a situation. (Hebrews 4:13) He reads the heart; he notes the degree of ignorance, negligence, or willful sin; and he acts with impartiality - De 10:17, 18; 1Sa 16:7; Ac 10:34, 35.

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Who will admit that the Bibles advice is the best and that to allow gay marriage is the gravest of mistakes?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Anger may be justified or unjustified. On Gods part, his anger is always justified, being based on principle dictated by his right to exclusive devotion and his constancy in upholding truth; it is governed by his love for righteousness and for those practising righteousness. Divine anger does not stem from a momentary whim, to be later regretted. Jeh ...[text shortened]... egligence, or willful sin; and he acts with impartiality - De 10:17, 18; 1Sa 16:7; Ac 10:34, 35.
Under what circumstances is your own anger "justified or unjustified"?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Do you think your advice to practice safe sex is working?
im not in a position where i can advice many people about safe sex. i know my parents advice worked with me. im sure if the people in power cared enough they could make a difference, but like ive pointed out there are much bigger killers than h.i.v. in the uk.

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Originally posted by FMF
Under what circumstances is your own anger "justified or unjustified"?
please dude we went through this yesterday, I am uninterested in getting personal.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Who will admit that the Bibles advice is the best and that to allow gay marriage is the gravest of mistakes?
what are the consequences of gay marriage?

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Originally posted by stellspalfie
im not in a position where i can advice many people about safe sex. i know my parents advice worked with me. im sure if the people in power cared enough they could make a difference, but like ive pointed out there are much bigger killers than h.i.v. in the uk.
I did not mean you personally, but the whole practice safe sex movement, you know like handing out condoms to secondary school kids etc.

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Originally posted by stellspalfie
what are the consequences of gay marriage?
It has sanctioned an essentially harmful and unnatural practice in opposition to the Bibles sound and wise and practical advice.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes i am sure, but the vast majority is through illicit sexual activity and in the beginning, drug abuse, which you will be glad to know is also condemned in scripture. See how solid, wise, good, practical and healthy applying the Bibles advice can be and yet, you have rejected it and are now in an uncontrollable gay parade of political fashion victims. It does not bode well for you people.
does the existence of h.i.v really matter to how you feel about homosexuality? if there was no such thing as h.i.v would you find homosexual anal sex any more acceptable?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
please dude we went through this yesterday, I am uninterested in getting personal.
It's just that you are coming across as a bit angry now. You have written something or other about you reckoning God's anger is justified. If you are angry with people who don't share your beliefs or if you are angry about homosexuality, is it "justified or unjustified", I mean Biblically speaking?