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Originally posted by FMF
How representative is what you come across on the web when you surf? Does it give a more valid picture than properly conducted polling on the issue?
whether its more or less valid i cannot say, its certainly paints a somewhat different picture than the 'sure come on in, bring your gay parade to town', so beloved by politicians.

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Originally posted by FMF
But you said they use "derogatory terms". You introduced this information.
so calling someone gay ass is not derogatory, wow.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
your personal feelings I am sure have meaning to you, but the question is, what guarantees have been furnished to those who do not accept the legitimacy of gay marriage.
That isn't my question. I don't exactly know what guarantees there are, if any. My question is: if the guarantees were there with regard to the liability to prosecution for privately owned business, would you support an end to institutionalized discrimination at the hands of public and governmental entities?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
so calling someone gay ass is not derogatory, wow.
You said it was "derogatory" in your post.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
whether its more or less valid i cannot say, its certainly paints a somewhat different picture than the 'sure come on in, bring your gay parade to town', so beloved by politicians.
What picture do the discussions on pro-gay YouTube clips paint?

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Originally posted by FMF
That isn't my question. I don't exactly know what guarantees there are, if any. My question is: if the guarantees were there with regard to the liability to prosecution for privately owned business, would you support an end to institutionalized discrimination at the hands of public and governmental entities?
what the government does is their affair, what discrimination are you talking about?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you and the rest of the populace, you really think that the rest of the populace are up front about the acceptance of gayness? One only needs to read any kind of discussion on youtube or anywhere else the political correctness is not a factor and you will soon realise that people, especially the young, have strong views on it, not always positive.
Discussions on YouTube?!

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Originally posted by FMF
What picture do the discussions on pro-gay YouTube clips paint?
why dont you go and look at some and report back?

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
Discussions on YouTube?!
or yahoo, or anywhere else for that matter.

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Originally posted by FMF
You said it was "derogatory" in your post.
so what? are you saying that its not derogatory?

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Originally posted by RJHinds
It seems to me that they want more civil rights that the rest of us.
Name two or more "civil rights" that they want that the rest of us don't have. If you can.

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Originally posted by FMF
That isn't my question. I don't exactly know what guarantees there are, if any. My question is: if the guarantees were there with regard to the liability to prosecution for privately owned business, would you support an end to institutionalized discrimination at the hands of public and governmental entities?
so you cannot tell us what guarantees have been furnished to those who oppose the stance, thank you, that's all I needed to know, a moral stance which is objectionable to others on the basis of conscience has now been framed by decree! Do you think they will make gayness mandatory any time soon?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
what i view on youtube is your business why? i have already told you what i generally watch on youtube not that it is of course any of your business, you got that? People surf the web, they come across things that they were not initially looking for.
what you watch on youtube is relevant to you claiming younger generations seem to be exhibiting stronger homophobic tendencies. as this is contrary the opinions i have of young people, im wondering what kind of videos stir up these debates and comments.

do you think the people commenting on these videos represent an even distribution of the opinions of the age generations watching the videos?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
so what? are you saying that its not derogatory?
Well if you agree that the things said in those YouTube discussion are derogatory, what reason do you have to doubt they are written by people who are prejudiced against homosexuals??

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
so you cannot tell us what guarantees have been furnished to those who oppose the stance, thank you, that's all I needed to know, a moral stance which is objectionable to others on the basis of conscience has now been framed by decree!
So I have answered your question. How about mine? If the guarantees were there with regard to the liability to prosecution for privately owned business, would you support an end to institutionalized discrimination at the hands of public and governmental entities?