Originally posted by stellspalfiethey certainly represent a different perspective than the politicly correct one that we are fed through the media via the disproportionate representation of gay 'issues'.
what you watch on youtube is relevant to you claiming younger generations seem to be exhibiting stronger homophobic tendencies. as this is contrary the opinions i have of young people, im wondering what kind of videos stir up these debates and comments.
do you think the people commenting on these videos represent an even distribution of the opinions of the age generations watching the videos?
Originally posted by FMFwhat discrimination are you talking about?
So I have answered your question. How about mine? If the guarantees were there with regard to the liability to prosecution for privately owned business, would you support an end to institutionalized discrimination at the hands of public and governmental entities?
Originally posted by FMFpro gay, cannot say, i had occasion to read some when conrau was posting, as he provided some links, cannot recall really what the content was about, although i am sure there was some kind of counselling service.
Have you followed any pro-gay discussions on yahoo or YouTube? What were they like?
do you really think that a pro gay website or a you tube video is going to provide an objective representation of the populace as a whole?? if not then your usage of it as some type of leverage is essentially useless.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieAny discrimination that has a detrimental effect on full recognition of a gay marriage by the state, full inheritance rights, full access to children and relatives in cases of estrangement or family/partner death, full legal protections, equality in the eyes of the law, in terms of employment, taxes, job tenure etc. There's a whole raft of things.
what discrimination are you talking about?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWell I can ask you the same thing. Do you really think that an anti-gay web site or a you tube video is going to provide an objective representation of the populace as a whole? You have presented evidence of only this: that some people on the internet use derogatory language to talk about homosexuals.
do you really think that a pro gay website or a you tube video is going to provide an objective representation of the populace as a whole?? if not then your usage of it as some type of leverage is essentially useless.
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Originally posted by FMFthey can have all of these things through civil partnership,
Full recognition of a gay marriage by the state, full inheritance rights, full access to children and relatives in cases of estrangement or family/partner death, full legal protections, equality in the eyes of the law, in terms of employment, taxes, job tenure etc. There's a whole raft of things.
what jobs are denied to them on the basis of their sexual preference?
what legal protections are denied them?
what inheritance rights are denied to them on the basis of their sexuality?
do tell.
Originally posted by FMFwho said it was anti gay? do you really think young people accept gayness, that there is no stigma attached to gayness, that everyone accepts it without question, oh dear your nampy pamby secular liberal world is miles away from reality.
Well I can ask you the same thing. Do you really think that an anti-gay web site or a you tube video is going to provide an objective representation of the populace as a whole? You have presented evidence of only this: that some people on the internet use derogatory language to talk about homosexuals.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAre you sure?
the can have all of these things through civil partnership,
what jobs are denied to them on the basis of their sexual preference?
what legal protections are denied them?
what inheritance rights are denied to them on the basis of their sexuality?
This is from page 1 of this thread:
According to wiki, these countries recognize this basic human right:
Argentina
Belgium
Canada
Denmark
Iceland
Netherlands
New Zealand†
Norway
Portugal
South Africa
Spain
Sweden
The country where I live is missing from that list for a start. New Zealand has just been added.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieim sure a neo-nazi could argue that the media is disproportionate as it doesnt reflect all beliefs of all the far right nutcases out there. this does not mean that there is a bubbling of nazism under the facade of 'normal' life. i would say the majority of people are not homophobic and this is reflected by the media. i would suggest you stop basing your views on young people based on youtube, this could end up with you drawing all sorts of bizarre conclusions. maybe the quality of the people posting is a reflection of the quality of video entertainment you are looking at, but as you are so defensive about what you watch, i guess we'll never know and have to take your word for it.
they certainly represent a different perspective than the politicly correct one that we are fed through the media via the disproportionate representation of gay 'issues'.