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Obedience vs Disobedience

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Originally posted by @fmf
For what reason do you claim what the survivors of Flight 571 did was not the "right" thing to do? You really believe that they did something "evil"?
I think it is hard to judge if you are not in the exact extreme situation. As a general rule though if there are other options available I believe eating human flesh is wrong. Don't you?

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Ok fair response. So if you think the Bible is not an objective universal standard of morality, do you think everyone should just do as they please and ignore what the Bible says?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
I think it is hard to judge if you are not in the exact extreme situation. As a general rule though if there are other options available I believe eating human flesh is wrong. Don't you?
You said: "Sometimes people do extreme things to survive, that doesn't necessarily make it right but it could be the lesser of two evils."

So, just to be clear - because the above answer just seems to me to be evasive - and I will put the words in quotation marks/bold so there can be no affectation by you of not having understood what you are being asked: do you claim what the survivors of Flight 571 did was not the "right" thing to do?

And do you really believe that what they did was "evil" in some way or to some extent? If so, based on what?


Originally posted by @dj2becker
As a general rule though if there are other options available I believe eating human flesh is wrong...
Well if there were 'other options', why would people eat human flesh?

Would I want to eat human flesh if there were other options available? No. It would be my preference not to. Would my objection or unwillingness be because eating it, in and of itself, is "wrong" i.e.morally unsound? No.

Would I have done what the survivors of Flight 571 did? Yes, I would have done. No murder was involved. No harm was done. There was no deceit. No coercion. So I don't see any reason to view doing it as being morally unsound.

If you do, can you explain?

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Originally posted by @fmf
You said: "Sometimes people do extreme things to survive, that doesn't necessarily make it right but it could be the lesser of two evils."

So, just to be clear - because the above answer just seems to me to evasive - and I will put the words in quotation marks/bold so there can be no affectation by you of not having understood what you are being asked - do y ...[text shortened]... elieve that what they did was [b]"evil"
in some way or to some extent? If so, based on what?[/b]
From my understanding the Bible seems to portray eating human flesh in a bad light. Murdering someone in order to cannibalize him (homicidal cannibalism) is undeniably wrong, would you agree or not?

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I think I agree with the last part that you have written. If someone is unsure about something I still think it wouldn't hurt to see what the Bible says on the issue. If it isn't clear they should do as the spirit of God leads them.


Originally posted by @dj2becker
From my understanding the Bible seems to portray eating human flesh in a bad light. Murdering someone in order to cannibalize him (homicidal cannibalism) is undeniably wrong, would you agree or not?
I am not talking about murder as you well know.

Are you willing to engage what I have put to you and asked you, or is this mention of homicidal cannibalism ~ yet again ~ an indication that you simply don't want to discuss the moral issue on the table here?

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So do you agree that the Bible is clear on certain moral issues and what the Bible says would remain true regardless of what anyone may think about the issue?

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I don't know. How about you?


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Objective moral standards mean that some actions are always immoral no matter the circumstances. Ok if cannibalism is not always wrong, what about rape? Do you believe anything is always wrong? Or does everything go?