Obedience vs Disobedience

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You clearly don't seem to understand what an objective moral standard is. Objective moral standards mean that some actions are always immoral no matter the circumstances. They are independent of subjectivity. The objectivity of an action would essentially rely on the truth that the action was immoral. If you believe the Bible does not establish moral truth, then what does?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
So rape is only wrong if there is a reaction? What about raping a corpse? Or an unconscious victim?

"So rape is only wrong if there is a reaction?"

I do not think this was implied by my previous response and I don't think you did either.

I don't think it is possible to 'rape' a corpse. I think that your best bet if you are dead set on raping somebody is to get yourself a blow-up doll though. There are probably health implications involved with necrophilia. I hesitate to suggest it, but have you considered counselling?

Originally posted by @avalanchethecat
[b]"So rape is only wrong if there is a reaction?"

I do not think this was implied by my previous response and I don't think you did either.

I don't think it is possible to 'rape' a corpse. I think that your best bet if you are dead set on raping somebody is to get yourself a blow-up doll though. There are probably health implications involved with necrophilia. I hesitate to suggest it, but have you considered counselling?[/b]

I believe rape is always immoral no matter the circumstances. Do you?

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But you were wrong about cannabilism there is nothing in the bible about it (apart from the curse which you looked up afterward).

Do you agree that cannabilism is not only mentioned in the Bible but also portrayed in a bad light?

The Bible mentions rape multiple times are you too lazy to look it up yourself?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
I believe rape is always immoral no matter the circumstances. Do you?

I cannot immediately bring to mind a set of circumstances where I would consider rape to be a morally sound course of action. I do not think that the fact that we find ourselves in agreement on this point provides any support for your argument however.

Originally posted by @avalanchethecat
I cannot immediately bring to mind a set of circumstances where I would consider rape to be a morally sound course of action. I do not think that the fact that we find ourselves in agreement on this point provides any support for your argument however.

Of course you don't. It boils down to this, if there is no objective moral standard it means nothing can always be wrong regardless of the circumstances. We all know that certain things are always wrong regardless of what anyone may think. You are just in denial that is all.

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Rather that answer my question you resort to insults because that is all you have. You have brought nothing to this discussion.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Of course you don't. It boils down to this, if there is no objective moral standard it means nothing can always be wrong regardless of the circumstances. We all know that certain things are always wrong regardless of what anyone may think. You are just in denial that is all.

No, this all dissolves if the definition of rape is, implicitly or explicitly, "the morally wrongful act of ..." and so on. We all "know that certain things are always wrong" when their wrongfulness is pre-conditioned in the definition. Define rape in such a way that its wrongfulness is not explicitly or implicitly implied in the definition. Of course it is always wrong, but is not so if not always so implied in the definition.

Is there such a thing that we would say is justified rape?

Originally posted by @js357
No, this all dissolves if the definition of rape is, implicitly or explicitly, "the morally wrongful act of ..." and so on. We all "know that certain things are always wrong" when their wrongfulness is pre-conditioned in the definition. Define rape in such a way that its wrongfulness is not explicitly or implicitly implied in the definition. Of course it is a ...[text shortened]... ays so implied in the definition.

Is there such a thing that we would say is justified rape?

Do you or don't you have an objective standard of morality by which you can judge whether or not something is morally right or wrong?

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Case in point.