@fmf saidGoggle:
I know you did and I have been asking you for several pages to explain and expand upon what you mean by that.
The humanistic perspective is an approach to psychology that emphasizes empathy and stresses the good in human behavior. ... In counseling and therapy, this approach allows an psychologist to focus on ways to help improve an individual's self-image or self-actualization - the things that make them feel worthwhile.
In other words a human perspective of what is good and evil.
@kellyjay saidSo, looking at what you Googled, we agree that what Ghost of a Duke said makes moral sense. Where we differ is that you believe it makes moral sense for him to be tortured for eternity for believing people should behave with love and kindness ["stresses the good in human behaviour"] without believing in Jesus. Right?
Goggle:
The humanistic perspective is an approach to psychology that emphasizes empathy and stresses the good in human behavior. ... In counseling and therapy, this approach allows an psychologist to focus on ways to help improve an individual's self-image or self-actualization - the things that make them feel worthwhile.
In other words a human perspective of what is good and evil.
@fmf saidThe truth about evil you have managed to once again over look. Evil creatures are those that do evil things, wicked creatures are those that do wicked things. This means as soon as a single evil and wicked action was done or even contemplated, then the terms good and loving no longer apply to our race.
So, looking at what you Googled, we agree that what Ghost of a Duke said makes moral sense. Where we differ is that you believe it makes moral sense for him to be tortured for eternity for believing people should behave with love and kindness ["stresses the good in human behaviour"] without believing in Jesus. Right?
Another truth you continually over look God is good, righteous, and just so anyone flawed can’t be accepted, so must be rejected without exception. There are no excuses for evil deeds that can be made, so no evil deed will be over looked.
Without Jesus there is no hope when justice is required. Each one will stand and give an account for their lives to God, a single sin makes one a sinner. It is sin that matters between us and God, you have a solution to justify sinners before a Holy God?
@kellyjay saidThe notion that a creator god would reward people who do good and don't do "evil" makes moral sense. That's what Ghost of a Duke suggested, and you and he and I agree on that.
The truth about evil you have managed to once again over look. Evil creatures are those that do evil things, wicked creatures are those that do wicked things. This means as soon as a single evil and wicked action was done or even contemplated, then the terms good and loving no longer apply to our race.
Another truth you continually over look God is good, righteous, and j ...[text shortened]... It is sin that matters between us and God, you have a solution to justify sinners before a Holy God?
I don't buy into your "Without Jesus there is no hope when justice is required" thing because you have declared yourself "evil" and "wicked" but "saved" anyway on account of belief alone and not morally sound behaviour.
So, your Orwellian/dystopic doubleplusgoodthink [or else face stupendous violence] ideology does not make any moral sense to me, nor - I think - to Ghost of a Duke.
I don't "overlook" your superstitious beliefs; I just think they are morally incoherent.
@kellyjay saidThe truth about evil you have managed to once again over look. Evil creatures are those that do evil things, wicked creatures are those that do wicked things. This means as soon as a single evil and wicked action was done or even contemplated, then the terms good and loving no longer apply to our race.
Without Jesus there is no hope when justice is required. Each one will stand and give an account for their lives to God, a single sin makes one a sinner. It is sin that matters between us and God, you have a solution to justify sinners before a Holy God?
Another truth you continually over look God is good, righteous, and just so anyone flawed can’t be accepted, so must be rejected without exception. There are no excuses for evil deeds that can be made, so no evil deed will be over looked.
What a ghastly, misanthropic outlook Christianity has given you. Or perhaps you were attracted to it because your misanthropy found an ideological home there.
@fmf saidGood and bad deeds take us to a pass fail judgment. A bad deed is a failure for the total, there is not a sliding scale for righteousness.
The notion that a creator god would reward people who do good and don't do "evil" makes moral sense. That's what Ghost of a Duke suggested, and you and he and I agree on that.
I don't buy into your "Without Jesus there is no hope when justice is required" thing because you have declared yourself "evil" and "wicked" but "saved" anyway on account of belief alone and not morally ...[text shortened]... a Duke.
I don't "overlook" your superstitious beliefs; I just think they are morally incoherent.
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@kellyjay saidI don't buy it. You believe your "bad deeds" will not prevent you from enjoying everlasting life because of the ideology you profess. i.e. you think certain stuff is true = you are immortal, regardless of how "evil" and "wicked" you are.
Good and bad deeds take us to a pass fail judgment. A bad deed is a failure for the total, there is not a sliding scale for righteousness.
Meanwhile, you believe the "bad deeds" of people who are not members of your religion will bring down upon them stupendous violence and cruelty from an entity they have no reason to believe in.
Your misanthropic, I'm-alright-Jack ideology is an example of human nature at its worst.
I can scarcely imagine a more manmade-sounding god figure than that which lies at the dark heart of the torturer god ideology.