Originally posted by @fmfThe "choir" is enlarging all over the world.
You are talking to me as if I share the same superstitions as you do. That's why just about everything you have to say has no practical moral value for humanity at large ~ as you demonstrate time and time again ~ and is only suited for preaching to the choir.
Sorry.
We are building the kingdom of God.
If the fallen world of Adam has no future, then we are well advised to turn our attention to the kingdom of God.
The world around does derive some benefit.
Name me an orphanage organization started by Atheists, for example.
Much humanitarian efforts have been started under the banner of theism and Christian theology.
Name me an organization like, let's say. Salvation Army, which was started by Atheists and is as wide spread.
Originally posted by @sonshipWhat you are deflecting from is this:
Did one of your parents torture you as a kid ?
galveston75 has said, in reference to your ideology: "The teaching of a burning place that wicked humans go to suffer forever is not a bible teaching but is from pagan religions of the past."
Has he got a point?
Originally posted by @fmfDid you count all not letting you have your absolute way in everything you wanted, as being met with "torture" from your parents ?
What you are deflecting from is this:
galveston75 has said, in reference to your ideology: "The teaching of a burning place that wicked humans go to suffer forever is not a bible teaching but is from pagan religions of the past."
Has he got a point?
Were you tortured when they didn't let you have your spoiled way or when they disciplined you ? Did you then call them "Torturer father" or "Torturer mother" ?
Originally posted by @sonshipWhy are you talking in this way about my parents? Have I talked about yours, is that it? If I did, I don't remember. If I tried to troll you by referring to your parents or other family members, I apologize. If you can show me where it happened I would appreciate it.
Did you count all not letting you have your absolute way in everything you wanted, as being met with "torture" from your parents ?
Were you tortured when they didn't let you have your spoiled way or when they disciplined you ? Did you then call them "Torturer father" or "Torturer mother" ?
I hate to disappoint most of you but I'm not here to argue with anyone. The past has shown most of you live for that and it never accomplishes anything. A point too notice about the examples Jesus gave to us all to learn from with his teachings is that he never once just argued with ones he wanted to teach, just for the sake of arguing. Such a waist of time.
Just a few scriptures to think about.....
Some Bible translations use the word “hell” for the Hebrew word “Sheol” and the matching Greek word “Hades,” both of which refer to the "common grave" of mankind. (Psalm 16:10; Acts 2:27) Many people believe in a fiery hell, as shown in the some religious artwork . However, the Bible teaches differently.
Those in hell are unconscious and so cannot feel pain. “There is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol.”—Ecclesiastes 9:10.
Good people go to hell. The faithful men Jacob and Job expected to go there even as Jesus did for 3 days.—Genesis 37:35; Job 14:13.
Death, not torment in a fiery hell, is the penalty for sin. “He who has died has been acquitted from his sin.”—Romans 6:7.
Eternal torment would violate God’s justice. (Deuteronomy 32:4) When the first man, Adam, sinned, God told him that his punishment would simply be to pass out of existence: “Dust you are and to dust you will return.” (Genesis 3:19) God would have been lying if he were actually sending Adam to a fiery hell.
God does not even contemplate eternal torment. The idea that he would punish people in hellfire is contrary to the Bible’s teaching that “God is love.”—1 John 4:8; Jeremiah 7:31.
So if one were to love their children, from time to time yes they would need to be corrected and perhaps punished. But would you continue to punish that child for years or even the rest of their life? No you wouldn't. So why would Jehovah God do that to any human? No he would never do that....
So when the bible mentions a "lake of fire" what is that referring too? A place for wicked humans to be punished forever? No.
The bible mentions this place when it speaks of Satan's destruction in the future.
I'd post this info but it would fill up too much room. But here it explains this very clearly:
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/lake-of-fire/#?insight[search_id]=323ced88-10c7-4528-ad9c-ca3b8d4be2fc&insight[search_result_index]=0
