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Originally posted by scottishinnzYes he is right, but who say that the OT is the word of GOD? Does it really describe GOD? Or it is written by human to deviate from GOD?
Originally posted by ahosyneyThe problem with any religious fanatic is that they think that they have
The problem of Dawkinians is that the see GOD only througth the OT, which I agree cann't be GOD.
Originally posted by scottishinnzAnd I suppose Dawkins went to all the trouble of consulting theologians, looking up commentaries, and objectively try to understand why Christians and Jews repeatedly reconcile this god with love and justice?
Originally posted by NemesioI didn't assume anything here, I didn't see any Athetic talks about Quran, or what it say. They attack GOD through the Bible. And if I'm in their place I will do the same.
The problem with any religious fanatic is that they think that they have
the one, right, true and correct book through which they see God.
Moslems point to OT atrocities, Christians point to Koran atrocities.
And the circle jerk goes on and on, but they both share the cracker.
Originally posted by ahosyneyPeople who don't believe in god come to that conclusion because they know they do NOT have the truth. Nor do they believe that theists have the truth either, which is precisely why they're atheists in the first place. If you go around pretending that you have the truth, then of course you should be treated as though you have a mental problem.
I didn't assume anything here, I didn't see any Athetic talks about Quran, or what it say. They attack GOD through the Bible. And if I'm in their place I will do the same.
I would be happy to discuss GOD exitance through Quran if any one did read Quran or know anything about it.
Yes I belive that I know the truth , but don't you think that every man, ...[text shortened]... ill not do that because you think I'm just a fanatic religous man who don't use his mind.
Originally posted by NemesioIn both points you assumed something that didn't happen.
Originally posted by ahosyney
[b]I didn't assume anything here, I didn't see any Athetic talks about Quran, or what it say. They attack GOD through the Bible. And if I'm in their place I will do the same.
This is precisely my point. Here, athesists and moslems agree:
'The OT God is a False God and the writers don't know a cottonpicking
thin ...[text shortened]... say, 'Yes, it is in the Koran, but, no, it
is not God's Word?'
Originally posted by ahosyneyI didn't assume anything; you agreed with the atheist on his attack
But assuming my reaction to something in a very specific way is not good way of debating.
Originally posted by NemesioI welcome any one to show me his point. But do you excepect me to accept it without a prove.
I didn't assume anything; you agreed with the atheist on his attack
of the OT as demonstrating that the Jewish Scripture is not Divinely
I am also assuming nothing (for you have said it before) in suggesting
that you consider the Koran Divinely authored.
I am assuming nothing in noting that you agreed with the atheist's
critical reaction ...[text shortened]... ritten by men
and do not reflect God's mind, then I apologize for the assumption.
Originally posted by Ian68It is proven but you don't know.
The Quran has never been proven to be the word of god, are you saying you don't accept that the Quran is the word of god?
Originally posted by ahosyneyIt cannot be 'proven' just to Muslims. If it isn't proven to everyone, then it isn't proven at all. The fact that the Quran is ONLY accepted by the Muslims as being the word of god means that it isn't proven. It is your contention that the Quran is the word of god, but the case obviously remains open. Every religion maintains their holy book is the word of god. It is possible that they're all wrong except one, but is far more likely that they're all wrong.
It is proven but you don't know.
It is proven to every Muslim living today which are considered 1/6 of humans today. If it is not proven to you then you have to ask a Muslim to prove it to you or prove to the Muslim that it is not the word of GOD.
Did you read it or any part of it before?