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Originally posted by SuzianneStop guessing.
I guess my question is why on earth would an atheist be concerned with that?
Originally posted by sonhouse"What criteria do YOU use to establish a normal person?"
So is Tracy Chapman normal? Is Elvis normal? Is GW Bush Jr. normal? What criteria do YOU use to establish a normal person? Do they have to work in Detroit on auto manufacturing? Do they have to be a short order cook at the local diner? Was Einstein normal? Loretta Lynn? Who are these Normal's you talk about?
I myself have played music on nationally syndi ...[text shortened]... ent to school in Anchorage Alaska, played folk music at dozens of folk festivals, am I 'normal'?
Originally posted by ZahlanziI didn't say you advocated breaking the law. I apologize for the misunderstanding.
except that i never advocated letting criminals go free. i never advocated breaking the laws as you do when you misrepresent my position to absurd proportion so that would be easier for you to attack.
Originally posted by josephwYour god is a man made construct and all the morality engendered therein is also man made so there is no absolute, it is what we make it.
[b]"What criteria do YOU use to establish a normal person?"
The criteria of common sense. When it has to do with public expression. When it has to do with what is efficient when it has to do with healthy development of mind, body and spirit.
And more importantly, when it has to do with how what we do effects others.
I would have to say that the ...[text shortened]... may be funny, but who does that? Generally speaking I'd say a person with psychological issues.[/b]
Originally posted by josephwI don't think the issue is whether they are normal or not. But whether they would normally wear a colander while driving. Clearly not, if only for safety reasons, so they shouldn't have it on while posing for their driving licence photograph. What about passports? Are they really going to go through customs with a metal object on their head?
[b]"What criteria do YOU use to establish a normal person?"
The criteria of common sense. When it has to do with public expression. When it has to do with what is efficient when it has to do with healthy development of mind, body and spirit.
And more importantly, when it has to do with how what we do effects others.
I would have to say that the ...[text shortened]... may be funny, but who does that? Generally speaking I'd say a person with psychological issues.[/b]
Originally posted by SuzianneI suspected as such from the comment you'd made in the thread about them finally ordaining women bishops. I don't know enough about the Episcopalians to make a judgement about who is more liberal. I'd just point out that the Church of England contains a lot of variation: there's Low Church, typically in the North, with High Church and Anglo-Catholics more frequent in the South of England all lumped in together in one Church. So issues like women priests tend to be difficult as they worry they'll lose Anglo-Catholics to the Roman Church if they do it, and may lose Low Church congregations to other reformed churches if they don't.
Since you asked, I'll answer.
Episcopalian. It's the US version of Anglican, although from what I've been able to ascertain, it's a little more liberal than Anglicanism.
Yeah, fundamentalist. No, I don't think so. I'm actually to the left of center. I'm pretty sure the fundamentalists (of any religion) are pretty much right of center. But I guess to the atheists, we're ALL fundamentalists. Maybe we look the same to them.
Originally posted by SuzianneYou believe in some great big apocalyptic battle that will be fought in our life-times between the demons of hell and the angels of light on the plains of Megido (or however you phrase it), this is pretty damned right of centre to me. Further, you are more inclined to defend the god of the OT than you are to assert that the writings about this entity might not have been wholly accurate.
Since you asked, I'll answer.
Episcopalian. It's the US version of Anglican, although from what I've been able to ascertain, it's a little more liberal than Anglicanism.
Yeah, fundamentalist. No, I don't think so. I'm actually to the left of center. I'm pretty sure the fundamentalists (of any religion) are pretty much right of center. But I guess to the atheists, we're ALL fundamentalists. Maybe we look the same to them.
Originally posted by josephwBelieving in imaginary beings, talking to someone in your head,
Wearing a colander on one's head isn't normal. It may be funny,
but who does that? Generally speaking I'd say a person with
psychological issues.
Originally posted by AgergI'm pretty sure that is not part of Anglican theology.
You believe in some great big apocalyptic battle that will be fought in our life-times between the demons of hell and the angels of light on the plains of Megido (or however you phrase it), this is pretty damned right of centre to me. Further, you are more inclined to defend the god of the OT than you are to assert that the writings about this entity might not ...[text shortened]... others to consider you a moderate ... you still believe in full-fat crazy, just a bit less salt.
Originally posted by wolfgang59In other words, they're the "wishy-washy" types we were talking about in another thread. You know, those who say they believe something, but when the rubber meets the road, they really couldn't be held actually responsible for their beliefs. You mean "sane" like that?
No. I have sane theist friends.