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    05 Jun '12 19:06
    http://youtube.googleapis.com/v/LJc8Mzg0C-c

    And some here say the world is not bad? Who's fooling who?
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    06 Jun '12 01:49
    Originally posted by galveston75
    http://youtube.googleapis.com/v/LJc8Mzg0C-c

    And some here say the world is not bad? Who's fooling who?
    Is THAT what Eve looked like?
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    06 Jun '12 02:17
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Is THAT what Eve looked like?
    Did you notice how he slipped 'right wing extremism' in with patriotism and hard work as one of the good things that the devil would caution against.
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    06 Jun '12 02:19
    Originally posted by galveston75
    http://youtube.googleapis.com/v/LJc8Mzg0C-c

    And some here say the world is not bad? Who's fooling who?
    Paul Harvey is fooling you apparently.
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    06 Jun '12 03:54
    Originally posted by kevcvs57
    Paul Harvey is fooling you apparently.
    Lol. Oh he is huh? And how is he doing that?
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    06 Jun '12 04:10
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Lol. Oh he is huh? And how is he doing that?
    Oh right sorry you mean it is a bad place because of people like paul harvey.
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    06 Jun '12 06:39
    Originally posted by kevcvs57
    Did you notice how he slipped 'right wing extremism' in with patriotism and hard work as one of the good things that the devil would caution against.
    Are patriotism and hard work considered to be extremism in the US?
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    06 Jun '12 07:02
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Are patriotism and hard work considered to be extremism in the US?
    No they are not that is the point, the video links them with right wing extremism as in they are all good things, did you watch the vid, it reminded me of the film 'Parallax view'.
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    06 Jun '12 07:19
    Originally posted by kevcvs57
    No they are not that is the point, the video links them with right wing extremism as in they are all good things, did you watch the vid, it reminded me of the film 'Parallax view'.
    Yes I watched it; I've seen lots of this type of messaging over the years.

    I understand that US politics is a little odd, but I find the idea that being a 'patriot' or a 'hard-worker' in the US would risk you being labelled "right wing extremist" bizzare tbh.
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    06 Jun '12 08:14
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Yes I watched it; I've seen lots of this type of messaging over the years.

    I understand that US politics is a little odd, but I find the idea that being a 'patriot' or a 'hard-worker' in the US would risk you being labelled "right wing extremist" bizzare tbh.
    This is getting too much like hard work now, it not the US that is linking hard work, and patriotism to right wing extremism it is Paul Harvey, and He is not trying to make hard work and patriotism look bad he trying to make right wing extremism look good. IMO.
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    06 Jun '12 08:241 edit
    Originally posted by kevcvs57
    This is getting too much like hard work now, it not the US that is linking hard work, and patriotism to right wing extremism it is Paul Harvey, and He is not trying to make hard work and patriotism look bad he trying to make right wing extremism look good. IMO.
    Its a social commentary on the degeneration of society and what factors have led to
    that erosion, essentially due to a lack of morality, or more specifically a moral
    relativism, the promotion of perceptions such as being 'a mean bad A$$', as some
    kind of virtue, the supersedence of politics over spiritual values, the promulgation of
    materialistic philosophies, the break up family, wars, the influence of media, the
    failure of education to inculcate moral values, the promotion of pornography, a
    secularisation of institutions making it a criminal offence to have any spiritual
    reference, less that it 'offend', someone, the substitution of psychology and secular
    liberalism in churches, the abuse of children by clergy, financial corruption of
    religious organisations, the inherent inequalities of the system which favours the
    affluent, the promotion of greed through gambling, the promotion of perceptions that
    anything can be termed extremism, that certain virtues can be promoted as
    dubious, hard work, morality, patriotism, that marraige and commitment are
    'uncool', that promiscuity is to be preferred, that the unreality of television
    engenders values, sexually transmitted disease, all of which give an indication of the
    present state of affairs.
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    06 Jun '12 10:16
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Its a social commentary on the degeneration of society and what factors have led to
    that erosion, essentially due to a lack of morality, or more specifically a moral
    relativism, the promotion of perceptions such as being 'a mean bad A$$', as some
    kind of virtue, the supersedence of politics over spiritual values, the promulgation of
    materiali ...[text shortened]... ly transmitted disease, all of which give an indication of the
    present state of affairs.
    ....and the failure of the Watchtower to counteract these evil forces.

    Sorry, just could not resist robbie. As Paul Harvey would say, "Gooood Day" 🙂
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    06 Jun '12 10:18
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Yes I watched it; I've seen lots of this type of messaging over the years.

    I understand that US politics is a little odd, but I find the idea that being a 'patriot' or a 'hard-worker' in the US would risk you being labelled "right wing extremist" bizzare tbh.
    It is not about working hard and being proud of your country, it is about promoting social justice for the collective "good" of humanity. Working hard is sooo yesterday.

    Geesh, get with the program guys.
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    06 Jun '12 10:31
    Originally posted by whodey
    ....and the failure of the Watchtower to counteract these evil forces.

    Sorry, just could not resist robbie. As Paul Harvey would say, "Gooood Day" 🙂
    actually we have not failed at all under the protection of our God Jehovah to counteract
    these evils, but a thread wouldn't be a thread without some dig at the watchtower.
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    06 Jun '12 13:56
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    actually we have not failed at all under the protection of our God Jehovah to counteract
    these evils, but a thread wouldn't be a thread without some dig at the watchtower.
    Obviously we saw two different videos based on our different world views. whether the construction of the video is an attempt to get across subliminal connections or a more innocent attempt to look cool it is the most blatantly political message masquerading as a non partisan religious sermon I have seen for a long time.

    If I were the devil I would be keeping a seat warm for my man P Harvey.
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