Originally posted by KellyJayYOU say that YOU can see that these people did good works.
What do you think the words, "...I never knew you..." mean? We all get doing good, we
can also see that these people did some good works, that wasn't denied either.
JESUS says that these people were EVIL WORKERS.
Read the passage again.
This is your story all the time.
YOU and JESUS CHRIST are worlds apart.
You have Jesus only in your head, not in your heart.
More English Comprehension lessons plus a good dose of common sense is needed for you to see what Jesus is saying.
Originally posted by KellyJayIf God is indeed all loving and wise, then I know.
No way? How do you know? As I pointed out to you earlier we have all sinned, everyone
of us, so when we compare ourselves to ourselves we are only looking at another person
who is also a sinner. Since that is the case, what does it matter if they are better than the
one next to them, since both have sin in their lives?
2 Corinthians 10:
12 For we d ...[text shortened]... hey measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.
To think such a God would punish for all eternity such a caring and righteous person is the Achilles' heel of your argument.
If your chosen God would indeed condemn such a person, then He is not all loving and all wise and I want nothing to do with Him.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeKelly Jay and Sohship have created a God in their mind that suits their personality.
If God is indeed all loving and wise, then I know.
To think such a God would punish for all eternity such a caring and righteous person is the Achilles' heel of your argument.
If your chosen God would indeed condemn such a person, then He is not all loving and all wise and I want nothing to do with Him.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeGod's punishment will be against all who do evil, all who sin. You are judging one of us righteous so than what and who are comparing them to that makes them so? If you have a standard do you think that God does not have one too?
If God is indeed all loving and wise, then I know.
To think such a God would punish for all eternity such a caring and righteous person is the Achilles' heel of your argument.
If your chosen God would indeed condemn such a person, then He is not all loving and all wise and I want nothing to do with Him.
Originally posted by KellyJayNO .. according to you, sonship and many others here, Christ will not punish sinful Christians who proclaim their faith with their mouth, but Christ will send to eternal torment, good people who do not know Him.
God's punishment will be against all who do evil, all who sin. You are judging one of us righteous so than what and who are comparing them to that makes them so? If you have a standard do you think that God does not have one too?
You therefore are a preacher and supporter of MOUTH WORSHIP, because it is the MOUTH WORSHIP which enables you to escape eternal torment.
Non-Christians who do not engage in mouth worhsip but who do good works will be tormented eternally, according to you.
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Originally posted by Rajk999Would you categorize yourself as a non sinful Christian?
NO .. according to you, sonship and many others here, Christ will not punish sinful Christians who proclaim their faith with their mouth, but Christ will send to eternal torment, good people who do not know Him.
You therefore are a preacher and supporter of MOUTH WORSHIP, because it is the MOUTH WORSHIP which enables you to escape eternal torment.
No ...[text shortened]... not engage in mouth worhsip but who do good works will be tormented eternally, according to you.
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Originally posted by Rajk999Firstly do you believe that someone who claims their own goodness (efforts and works) cannot save them is sinning by saying that?
I dont categorise myself or anyone based on who sins or not.
I categorise based on what doctrines they believe.
Secondly let me ask you thins, do you think everyone who believe in the doctrine that they are saved by faith does no good works and that they believe it is wrong to do good works? The way I see it, it is really important where you put your faith. Do you put it in your own goodness and your own efforts or is your faith solely in Christ who actually has the power to save you from your sin.
Originally posted by dj2beckerWHAT ??!!
Firstly do you believe that someone who claims their own goodness (efforts and works) cannot save them is sinning by saying that?
Secondly let me ask you thins, do you think everyone who believe in the doctrine that they are saved by faith does no good works and that they believe it is wrong to do good works? The way I see it, it is really important wh ...[text shortened]... efforts or is your faith solely in Christ who actually has the power to save you from your sin.