Originally posted by ryunix
So back to Paul Washers message *caugh*
You guys can start a thread on sound minds, etc if you like 🙂 I would mind because i have my own thoughts on speaking in tongues and prophesy
ANYWAY
I personally found the message very convicting as a Christian. I also was sadden by it... so many people are not truly believes because of bad evangelizing method ...[text shortened]... Once again lets try to stay on topic, other topics are great for new topics or private messages.
I'm sorry the topic got off track....I liked what he said and to a point I agree. What I did not like is the part he quoted about the heart.
The verse he quoted is from Jer 17:9...This verse is better translated from the NIV...
Jer 17:9
9 The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?
(NIV)
If the heart is beyond cure, then how do we trust it at all? He sounded a little gloomy and sounds like one of those Christians who has the burden of the world on his shoulders. At first I thought like he is right, we should repent daily, and to this I agree. But the reason I mentioned about manefestations is that this is my proof of the new birth inside. You see, if the heart is incurably sick, then we need a new heart. And this is what happens when we are born again and renew our minds to God's Word.
We are ambassadors for Christ! Who would want Christ if we were to walk around all day with the burden of the world on our shoulders? If we were always downcast wondering if we had sin or were really born again? No. The new life in Christ is an adventure! It is exciting! It is full of love and hope! We have the righteoussness of God Himself! We are to boast of our great Father and our Lord, Jesus Christ!
Rom 5:1-5
1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
2 through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
3 And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance;
4 and perseverance, character; and character, hope.
5 Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.
(NKJ)
Rom 6:5
5 For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection,
(NKJ)
2 Cor 5:21
21 For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
(NKJ)
Rom 3:21-22
21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,
22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference;
(NKJ)
We should be full of joy, we have been Redeemed, Justified, made Righteous, Reconciled, and made ambassadors for Christ! I don't want to hear "How do you know if you are saved"? I have been a Christian for 35 years. I have learned that satan will cause you to doubt your salvation. I want to be encouraged, exhorted and if I have unconfessed sin, God will bring this up and I will confess and be restored into fellowship with Him.
What Jesus accomplished on the cross and His ressurection, is so big that many Christians don't seem to understand who we are in Christ.
When a real Christian full of holy spirit, knowing who he is in Christ walks into a room, devils tremble!
Now I only listened to the short version and perhaps he had better things to say, so I am not condemning him, but just wanted to vent my thoughts on this topic..... 🙂