19 Sep 19
@divegeester saidI was not aware that the only evidence of Paul's encounter with Jesus.....was only Paul himself.
You said you had learned something from FMF posts in this thread, you seem to be quite animated by what you have learned, so I’m asking you for the third time what it is you have learned and how it has impacted your beliefs.
I had thought Paul met Jesus while Jesus was still alive....I was wrong.
I thought Paul was mentioned in the Gospels.....I was wrong.
I was not aware that Paul's writings were written before the Gospels.
Combine that with the notion that Paul seems to be preaching an entirely different message than that of Jesus.
You can read the posts of FMF and ThinkofOne in this thread, who both pointed out these things.
19 Sep 19
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@chaney3 saidYes I read all of their posts and I’m aware of what they said and of their opinions on this topic which are interesting. Everyone’s well constructed opinions are interesting.
I was not aware that the only evidence of Paul's encounter with Jesus.....was only Paul himself.
I had thought Paul met Jesus while Jesus was still alive....I was wrong.
I thought Paul was mentioned in the Gospels.....I was wrong.
I was not aware that Paul's writings were written before the Gospels.
Combine that with the notion that Paul seems to be preaching an entirely different message than that of Jesus.
I’m also already aware that several posts here have highlighted to you things of which you were previously unaware and other informed you that you were mistaken in your understanding, although your sweeping statement that “Paul seems to preaching a completely different message to Jesus” is not accurate. So you are clearly still learning.
Anyway, how has what you have learned impacted your beliefs, if at all?
19 Sep 19
@divegeester saidDid you read the post by ThinkofOne at the bottom of page 3?
Yes I read all of their posts and I’m aware of what they said and of their opinions on this topic which are interesting. Everyone’s well constructed opinions are interesting.
I’m also already aware that several posts here have highlighted to you things of which you were previously unaware and other informed you that you were mistaken in your understanding, although yo ...[text shortened]... clearly still learning.
Anyway, how has what you have learned impacted your beliefs, if at all?
Theologians, not me, are implying that Paul is preaching "Paul's message", and not that of Jesus.
19 Sep 19
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@chaney3 saidCombine that with the notion that Paul seems to be preaching an entirely different message than that of Jesus.
I was not aware that the only evidence of Paul's encounter with Jesus.....was only Paul himself.
I had thought Paul met Jesus while Jesus was still alive....I was wrong.
I thought Paul was mentioned in the Gospels.....I was wrong.
I was not aware that Paul's writings were written before the Gospels.
Combine that with the notion that Paul seems to be preaching an e ...[text shortened]... .
You can read the posts of FMF and ThinkofOne in this thread, who both pointed out these things.
The gospel message believed by the vast majority of Christians which is largely based upon the teachings of Paul IS antithetical to the gospel preached by Jesus.
It's not that Paul merely SEEMS to be preaching an entirely different message than that of Jesus
19 Sep 19
@chaney3 saidHow have all the new things you have learned in this thread impacted your religious beliefs?
Did you read the post by ThinkofOne at the bottom of page 3?
Theologians, not me, are implying that Paul is preaching "Paul's message", and not that of Jesus.
19 Sep 19
@divegeester saidFine, don't offer an opinion.
How have all the new things you have learned in this thread impacted your religious beliefs?
You're boring.
19 Sep 19
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@chaney3 saidI’ve given you my opinion, they (several of the posts on this thread) are interesting.
Fine, don't offer an opinion.
You're boring.
How has what you have learned in this thread impacted your religious beliefs?
19 Sep 19
@divegeester saidTheologians are basically saying that Paul does NOT serve Christianity well because he has distorted the original message of Jesus......and your only response is that it's "interesting".
I’ve given you my opinion, they are interesting.
How has what you have learned in this thread impacted your religious beliefs?
As I stated, you're boring, and just trolling at this point.
19 Sep 19
@chaney3 saidYes I am aware of what the historians cited in this these are saying.
Theologians are basically saying that Paul does NOT serve Christianity well because he has distorted the original message of Jesus......and your only response is that it's "interesting".
As I stated, you're boring, and just trolling at this point.
What I’m asking you for the seventh time now, is how what you have learned from them has impacted your religious beliefs?
Not at all is seems.
19 Sep 19
@divegeester saidI'm not sure yet.
Yes I am aware of what the historians cited in this these are saying.
What I’m asking you for the seventh time now, is how what you have learned from them has impacted your religious beliefs?
Not at all is seems.
Do YOU think Paul preached a differing view than Jesus?
It seems a very relevant question.
19 Sep 19
@chaney3 saidIf what you have learned from these posts has had no impact on your beliefs then why does it matter what you have learned from then?
I'm not sure yet.
19 Sep 19
@thinkofone saidIn this thread I have no beef with FMF because he presented some valid points on the subject.
You could just wait for FMF to chide divegeester for playing the man instead of the ball like he has with so many others.
Oh wait. That doesn't happen.
Dive, however, showed terrible forum etiqutte by ignoring every post by FMF, yet deciding to confront me on my replies to FMF. Showing such favoritism is bad for debating.