@dj2becker saidYou have been also told numerous times before you do not understand the purpose of the death of Christ. Your church neglects this point but Paul explained it.
As you have been told numerous times if works alone are enough there would be need for the death of Jesus on the cross. So obviously works alone are not enough.
Christ's death was necessary because a blood sacrifice to counteract the sin of Adam was the only way to save mankind. Without this sacrifice there is no eternal life for anyone..
Paul explains this in almost every one of his letters to the churches.
@rajk999 saidWrong again as usual. How long are you going to be a liar on this subject?
The JWs think there is no hope outside of their organisation, and that they alone will survive Armageddon and live peacefully on the earthly Kingdom therafrter.
Sonship thinks that only the LCM church are Gods church and only they will reign with Christ in the millennial Kingdom.
You apparently think these points of view are ok ?
What the Bible says
“A great crowd” of people from all nations will survive “the great tribulation,” which will end with the war of Armageddon.—Revelation 7:9, 14.
What else can we learn from the Bible?
God wants as many as possible to survive Armageddon. He destroys the wicked only as a last resort.—Ezekiel 18:32."
Where does it say only JW's will survive?
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@galveston75 said"Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." Watchtower 1989 Sep 1 p.19
Wrong again as usual. How long are you going to be a liar on this subject?
What the Bible says
“A great crowd” of people from all nations will survive “the great tribulation,” which will end with the war of Armageddon.—Revelation 7:9, 14.
What else can we learn from the Bible?
God wants as many as possible to survive Armageddon. He destroys the wicked only as a last resort.—Ezekiel 18:32."
Where does it say only JW's will survive?
"In fact, with God's day of judgment so near today, all the world should 'keep silent before the Sovereign Lord Jehovah' and hear what he says through the "little flock" of Jesus' anointed followers and their companions, his "other sheep." (Luke 12:32; John 10:16) Annihilation awaits all who will not listen and who thereby set themselves against rule by God's Kingdom." Watchtower 2001 Feb 15 p. 14
"During the final period of the ancient world that perished in the Flood, Noah was a faithful preacher of righteousness. (2 Peter 2:5) In these last days of the present system of things, Jehovah's people are making known Gods righteous standards and are declaring good news about the possibility of surviving into the new world. (2 Peter 3:9-13) Just as Noah and his God-fearing family were preserved in the ark, survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovah's universal organization." Watchtower 2006 May 15 p.22 "Are You Prepared for Survival?"
"There are billions of people who do not know Jehovah. Many of them in ignorance practice things that God's Word shows to be wicked. If they persist in this course, they will be among those who perish during the great tribulation." Watchtower 1993 Oct 1 p.19
Who is the liar now?
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@rajk999 saidI think the matter is controversial. But I don't want you to change your understanding of it.
But you dont agree apparently.
That is fine.
If you take Matthew 25 standing on its own, and you have no other text, then one has to agree that it says quite plainly that "what you did to the least of my brethren" determines whether you are a sheep or a goat.
But, as in so many cases, there are other scriptures which say something different, especially Paul in Romans. But I am sure that you know how to refute those, if you wish, and have done so on this forum extensively.
As far as I am concerned, I do the best I can to comply with Matt 25, not out of fear of being a goat, but merely because I want to live in peace with my fellow man, and he needs a break just as much as I do.
So I don't argue about this matter - if somebody complains that they do NOT want to do "Good Works", then there are probably a lot of other things wrong with them as well.
@caljust saidI would say that Jesus said the 'least of my brethren' so as to include all people. Any act of brotherly love to anyone I would think would be included. But Jesus will know.
I think the matter is controversial. But I don't want you to change your understanding of it.
If you take Matthew 25 standing on its own, and you have no other text, then one has to agree that it says quite plainly that "what you did to the least of my brethren" determines whether you are a sheep or a goat.
But, as in so many cases, there are other scriptures which say ...[text shortened]... NOT want to do "Good Works", then there are probably a lot of other things wrong with them as well.
People who are of God will do good works and live righteously. It will come naturally and they dont have to make a great effort. Wanting to live in peace is mentioned in Matt 5 and peacemakers are the children of God. There is no act of kindness or brotherly love that will not go unrewarded, sometimes in this life or in the next. Christ will judge.
Many Christians of today have gone the very same way of the Pharisees in the time of Christ and they will not see the Kingdom of God. Jesus said that your righteousness must exceed theirs.
@rajk999 saidI can’t disagree with anything you said here.
I would say that Jesus said the 'least of my brethren' so as to include all people. Any act of brotherly love to anyone I would think would be included. But Jesus will know.
People who are of God will do good works and live righteously. It will come naturally and they dont have to make a great effort. Wanting to live in peace is mentioned in Matt 5 and peacemakers are th ...[text shortened]... ist and they will not see the Kingdom of God. Jesus said that your righteousness must exceed theirs.
Right on, brother.
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Peace on Earth, understanding love and becoming autonomous humans who know the value of free will , its power and its purpose will naturally prevail. The truth is simple and logical. What passes for normal in many parts of the world will be shown to be what.it is and with a bit.of luck and preparation the Lord's plan will reveal itself. The Earth refuses to.put up with those that seek
.conquer and dominate .