@secondson saidMy question is specifically about the OP: political activity, religious belief, morality and repentance. I am not talking about whether I lie or whether you lie.
Is that what you did?
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@secondson saidI don't believe there is any such thing as "sin"; I am an agnostic atheist. I'd contend that it would be morally justifiable to use deceit to protect myself or my family or people I am responsible for who seek to cause damage through morally unsound acts. What connection do you see between your question and the OP?
Do you think it's a sin to deceive a deceiver?
@fmf said@divegeester said
My question is specifically about the OP: political activity, religious belief, morality and repentance. I am not talking about whether I lie or whether you lie.
"The notion that there are some sins which cannot be forgiven, or there is a period of time over which these sins are committed which precludes them from forgiveness, or there is a level of wilfulness about these sins which deems them outside of the attornment, is not supportable scripturally.
Where or not Pence is a Christian remains to be seen. The only evicence described in the bible as being of value is “fruit”I.e. the fruit of the spirit. The fruit of the spirit in this case is singular in expedition, meaning that isolated behaviours of “love” for example are not evidence.
The fruit of the spirit IS (singular) and listed 12 attributes of that fruit are: charity (or love), joy, peace, patience, benignity (or kindness), goodness, longanimity (or long-suffering), mildness (or gentleness), faith, modesty, continency (or self-control), and chastity. The absence of these collective behaviours does not mean that a person is not a Christian, it simply mean ps there is no evidence that they are. They are a tree without fruit. So, while Pence may claim to be a Christian we can have no idea wether he is or not.
The no true Scotsman argument stems from an argument that no person who behaves like that (whatever “that” may be) is part of my group. But as a debating tool, against Christians who adopt this weak platform of using the no true Scotsman argument, it is moot, as every religion will use it. Muslim terrorists are not true Muslims is an example.
So, Pence may or may not be a Christian, however wether he is or wether he isn’t isn’t is irrelevant as to wether or not he can repent of his lies.
This is my viewpoint. It may not be a grwst viewpoint, but it is mine."
Have any questions for divegeester? Besides ToO he seems to be the only other poster interested in your bs hypothetical OP.
To tell you the truth I don't think divegeester even wrote it. On the other hand it's pathetic enough to be his.
@secondson saidWhat about the OP? What about my question about Pence?
How many decades did you fumble along through life believing things you now think are not true?
@secondson saidYou're not interested in this thread's OP?
Have any questions for divegeester? Besides ToO he seems to be the only other poster interested in your bs hypothetical OP.
