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Originally posted by SwissGambit"Spirituality is not limited to theistic belief. There is no disconnect."
I like this quote:Spirituality can refer to an ultimate or immaterial reality;[1] an inner path enabling a person to discover the essence of their being; or the “deepest values and meanings by which people live.”[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirituality
1 Ewert Cousins, preface to Antoine Faivre and Jacob Needleman, Modern Esote ...[text shortened]... Blackwell 2007 p. 1-2
Spirituality is not limited to theistic belief. There is no disconnect.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI'm sure your third one crops up all over the shop...last time I saw it was courtesy of FreakyKBH:
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Please analyze this...
"Please analyze this one issue: the seeming disconnect in play on a popular cyberspace
spirituality forum, in which an overwhelming majority of active posters profess atheism."
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Second issue:
"Why all t ehalf.
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Originally posted by PinkFloydCan you give statistics on that?
There are far more theists than atheists in the world. The atheists are just louder.
Originally posted by Agerg"There is also the fear one may lose said gift before it even arrives."
I'm sure your third one crops up all over the shop...last time I saw it was courtesy of FreakyKBH:
http://www.redhotchess.com/board/showthread.php?subject=Fearful_Unbelief&threadid=130069
No one is being *offered* the "free gift" you mention, more it is expected they make a particular choice of which "free gift" they like best (your religion isn't the o ...[text shortened]... ons of loyalty. There is also the fear one may lose said gift before it even arrives.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbySome atheists do want to discuss spiritual topics and see themselves as spiritual, others like me, do not think theism is a good thing in general and would like to:
Please analyze this one issue: the seeming disconnect in play on a popular cyberspace
spirituality forum, in which an overwhelming majority of active posters profess atheism.
Originally posted by twhitehead"3. Enjoy a good discussion / debate."
Some atheists do want to discuss spiritual topics and see themselves as spiritual, others like me, do not think theism is a good thing in general and would like to:
1. convince others of the error of their ways.
2. understand why theists believe what they do.
3. Enjoy a good discussion / debate.
4. learn more about both theism and the arguments for an ...[text shortened]... nor particularly care about.
The science forum is interesting, but rarely leads to debate.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIf two groups of people have such different beliefs that they wont worship together then each group believes the other is seriously wrong in their method of worship and beliefs. That should be a major concern for everyone and a good reason for frenzied fixation. Not that I have seen much of that myself - it seems to be taken as normal by most people.
Why all the false focus and frenzied fixation on denominations, given the fact that independent local assemblies
were established for the sake of geographic convenience in the early church? Practical format hasn't changed.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyWell I suppose I'd have to first believe in gods (I don't), and the premise that your particular notion of god which happens to be "perfect" (God is perfect does not follow from God exists) is the correct and only such entity before taking this response seriously.
[b]"There is also the fear one may lose said gift before it even arrives."
He is perfect. His plan is perfect. Gift is secure. Incapable of being lost
because its permanency depends on Him and His promises, not on us.
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Originally posted by twhiteheadFair question. Could well become another same ole worthless thread
And which category would you put this thread in?
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Can you give statistics on that?
Can you also give statistics on those who would frequent a chess site? Its my understanding that statistically atheism is more frequent with both higher IQ and intelligence.
Originally posted by jaywillNo I don't. As far as I can tell from what Jesus said, it has more to do with how you treat others than you IQ (or belief for that matter), but then I don't know if you are asking about the possibility of Jesus's claims being reality, Pauls claims, your claims, or which possible (or impossible) reality you are referring to.
If God turns out to be a reality in the end on the day of judgment, do you feel that the guilty sinner with the higher IQ will have a better result ?