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Originally posted by AgergNo, just your sorry arse and mine...
Thats a bit spiteful of him!...Is he trying to save paper?
Originally posted by twhitehead[/b] Concerning "the book of the life if the Lamb" (Rev. 13:8; 3:10; 20:15) you ask:
And how does ones name get in there?
So why is "Judgement day" so called? You haven't really mentioned any 'judgement' yet. Its all about names in books, being 'saved' prior to the event etc, yet your question was specifically about Judgement day and its outcome.
[b]I didn't know that IQ of participants was even recorded on this ChessAtWork site.[/ point out that being an English language website, we have more Christians than Muslims.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI see (???)...then why is he so quick to remove names who didn't believe there existed a gift in the first place, let alone acknowledge that one was being offered from this so-called book of life given he wants to "save my sorry arse"???
No, just your sorry arse and mine...
Originally posted by Agerg"I see (???)...then why is he so quick to remove names who didn't believe..."
I see (???)...then why is he so quick to remove names who didn't believe there existed a gift in the first place, let alone acknowledge that one was being offered from this so-called book of life given he wants to "save my sorry arse"???
As I said earlier, I don't reject a free-gift, I reject the application procedure for a gift I am, with the evidence av t is the case I am wrong your god would indeed be spiteful for removing me from his book.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI don't take it as any sleight against my character or level of knowledge the implication I "sure as hell don't have a clue" because this is an accurate statement not only for me but for you also (unless of course you are equipped with an ability to detect the supernatural).
[b]"I see (???)...then why is he so quick to remove names who didn't believe..."
If you knew Him (second class conditional, and you sure as hell don't have a clue) you would know beyond a shadow of doubt that He isn't some sugary anything goes Santa Claus posing around for the helluva it in a fake beard but that His Righteousnesss, Justice and around.
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Originally posted by AgergYou're in well over your head, Agerg, and drowning with each stroke of your own keyboard
I don't take it as any sleight against my character or level of knowledge the implication I "sure as hell don't have a clue" because this is an accurate statement not only for me but for you also (unless of course you are equipped with an ability to detect the supernatural).
That your notion of god need not be nice isn't my concern if it is stated at the ou ...[text shortened]... t of it (and if my dry point about saving paper earlier annoyed you then my apologies)
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI am rubber you are glue.
You're in well over your head, Agerg, and drowning with each stroke of your own keyboard
without having provoked or annoyed anybody. Main issue is... you're sitting in darkness.
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyMaybe some other time I'll go into why I left.
[b]"I tried the path of Christianity for 20 years. It just wasn't the right the right one for me."
How forthright, SG. Unsure which question to presume to ask... why did it sour or what have you found?
Edit: Let's play some chess later on this year.
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Originally posted by jaywillIt seems rather odd then that you and Grampy seem intent on writing pages and pages about salvation and how to obtain it but practically nothing about this great white throne that was the object of the original question. It feels like a bait and switch.
There is more than one judgment. When I used phrase "the day of judgment" I was refering to the last judgment of the great white throne just before the eternal age commences.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyAnd your premise is simply the opposite.* If the premises are the disconnect (say, between a Christian and a Zen Buddhist), then it is precisely the premises that need analyzed. On a forum such as this, that analysis generally takes the form of argument.
Premise seems to suggest 'spirituality' is just another subjective effort or inward search
for relativistic values on a horizontal plane, rather than an absolute vertical connection.
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungThat is true, but I don't believe things are as bad as all that. Billy Graham was quoted as saying that he believe about 10% of the people he had preached to and professed to be Christian would actually be in heaven when they died. Meaning no disrespect to Mr. Graham, I'm just not that pessimistic.
I think you'd be surprised how many "theists" are cultural theists only.
Originally posted by PinkFloydWhat does 'cultural theist' connote or mean within the realm of spirituality?
That is true, but I don't believe things are as bad as all that. Billy Graham was quoted as saying that he believe about 10% of the people he had preached to and professed to be Christian would actually be in heaven when they died. Meaning no disrespect to Mr. Graham, I'm just not that pessimistic.
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It seems rather odd then that you and Grampy seem intent on writing pages and pages about salvation and how to obtain it but practically nothing about this great white throne that was the object of the original question. It feels like a bait and switch.