02 Dec 11
Originally posted by whodeyWhy limit yourself to two iditic options?
If a small child wonders out into the street, you have two options. The first option is to try and "reason" with him. Good luck!! The second option is to provide him with a negative outcome, such as a spanking, that is associated with running out into the street. This option has a much greater chance of working and could actually save his life.
Why not praise the child when they do not wander into the street?
Why not show disappointment when they do?
Spanking a child will teach him/her that bigger people make little people do what they want by the use of force.
How do you think teachers control 30 kids?
02 Dec 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieDear Robbie - I believe violence in schools is just a reflection of violence in society.
i think its fair to say that much of what passes for modern psychology is conjecture at
best and hocus pocus at worst. There can be no question that the profusion of
delinquency in schools is a direct correlation to a teachers inability to lay a finger on a
pupil for fear of litigation. This is the direct result of a secular liberal ideology which has
its basis in pure materialism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_violence
Monkey see, monkey do. children learn by imitation; they have enough negative imagery around them without being given the idea that to pursuade someone to do as you want a cane is required!
At what age would you consider caning someone who doesnt do as you ask assault? 16? 18?
Whatever age you choose you are left with the situation where at the stroke of midnight "good teaching practice" becomes ABH.
02 Dec 11
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Originally posted by wolfgang59i dont believe that i mentioned caning at all, why this should come to your mind i cannot say, for punishment takes many forms.
Dear Robbie - I believe violence in schools is just a reflection of violence in society.
Monkey see, monkey do. children learn by imitation; they have enough negative imagery around them without being given the idea that to pursuade someone to do as you want a cane is required!
At what age would you consider caning someone who doesnt do as you ask a ...[text shortened]... left with the situation where at the stroke of midnight "good teaching practice" becomes ABH.
02 Dec 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI'm sorry I misunderstood you then.
no not necessarily, it could simply mean removal from the classroom, by force, if
necessary.
Removal from a classroom by reasonable force I believe is permitted if the individual is a danger to themselves, others or substantial amount of property.
Removing individuals from a class can be effective if not over-used. Of course the classroom environment has to be more interesting than where the villain has been sent!! No use banishing a student from a boring lesson!!!!
02 Dec 11
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Originally posted by wolfgang59No worries,
I'm sorry I misunderstood you then.
Removal from a classroom by reasonable force I believe is permitted if the individual is a danger to themselves, others or substantial amount of property.
Removing individuals from a class can be effective if not over-used. Of course the classroom environment has to be more interesting than where the villain has been sent!! No use banishing a student from a boring lesson!!!!
you see, this is the problem, there has to be some proviso, you cannot simply say,
please remove yourself from the classroom so that those who want to learn, can do
so, and if they refuse, give them the bums rush without fear or recrimination!