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Originally posted by eatmybishopi would agree with you, everything i have written or anyone has written can be proved to be false,
i would agree with you, everything i have written or anyone has written can be proved to be false, but that goes for you as well my friend
Based upon what could everything that you have written be proved false?
but that goes for you as well my friend
I have never disputed the fact. You were the one claiming that there is no absolute right and wrong... It seems your tune has changed a bit,,, hmmm?
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Originally posted by dj2beckerHe did not say that he was. Deliberately failing to understand posts does not help the discussion.
Muhammad is not in the Bible, silly! 😀
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Such behavior is 'wrong' in my opinion. The fact that you are willing to do it, implies that it is not 'wrong' in yours. Therefore 'wrong' is relative.
Originally posted by dj2beckeri feel we're going round in circles a bit, why am i changing my tune..? i've just said nothing is absolutely true or false, i've just backed that up.... with all respect becker, i feel you need to get your side of the argument in some form of logical sense otherwise it just falls apart... like it has done
[b]i would agree with you, everything i have written or anyone has written can be proved to be false,
Based upon what could everything that you have written be proved false?
but that goes for you as well my friend
I have never disputed the fact. You were the one claiming that there is no absolute right and wrong... It seems your tune has changed a bit,,, hmmm?[/b]
also, the previous post stated the bible talks of rape and murder, not that muhammed was in the bible, that is clear just by reading his post but you've tried to make that person look like a fool and in doing so have made yourself look like one
Originally posted by dj2beckerYou talk in black and white too much. There isn't an absolute right and wrong, just relative right and wrong.
[b]i would agree with you, everything i have written or anyone has written can be proved to be false,
Based upon what could everything that you have written be proved false?
but that goes for you as well my friend
I have never disputed the fact. You were the one claiming that there is no absolute right and wrong... It seems your tune has changed a bit,,, hmmm?[/b]
If you define it as absolutely wrong, then stealing a pound from a shop would be the same as stealing a million pounds from a bank. One is more wrong than another, therefore there isn't an absolute.
Agnostics and atheists are perfectly capable of empathising with other people, therefore they can conclude what is relatively right and wrong.
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Originally posted by twhiteheadI was pulling his leg, that is wrong. My appologies.
He did not say that he was. Deliberately failing to understand posts does not help the discussion.
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Such behavior is 'wrong' in my opinion. The fact that you are willing to do it, implies that it is not 'wrong' in yours. Therefore 'wrong' is relative.
It is not logically possible for the same thing to be both right and wrong at the same time, and you know it. Quit pretending. You will have to learn to live with the fact that your reasoning is totally illogical.
PS: Where does the Bible state that it is right to murder and rape?
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I don't know why you are flinging arithmetic into the mix dj2becker...within mathematics all principles are defined & created by humans...so long as the axioms, and theorems based upon them with which a certain mathematical statement rest upon are agreed to be justified, then expressions like 1 + 1 = 2 are indeed absolutely right because we humans define those numbers such that in base 10 arithmetic you could reach no other conclusion.
with respect to whether it is absolutely right or wrong to kill a 2 year old human (or dog, cat, chicken, etc...) mathematics is out of scope. It is not absolutely right or wrong to do anything unless a person for himself defines something in such way (and such a point of view would be independent of any other's definitions.)
also, as has been explained to you by someone else..."right" has different meanings.
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Originally posted by AgergSaying that the same thing is both absolutely right and absolutely wrong at the same time is a logical absurdity and you know it.
I don't know why you are flinging arithmetic into the mix dj2becker...within mathematics all principles are defined & created by humans...so long as the axioms, and theorems based upon them with which a certain mathematical statement rest upon are agreed to be justified, then expressions like 1 + 1 = 2 are indeed absolutely right because we humans define ns.)
also, as has been explained to you by someone else..."right" has different meanings.
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Originally posted by dj2beckerand this reply is relevant to my post because....?😕
Saying that the same thing is both absolutely right and absolutely wrong at the same time is a logical absurdity and you know it.
(where did I make any statement equivalent to: there exists something that is absolutely right and absolutely wrong at the same time?)
Originally posted by dj2beckerYou got that from my post about mathematics!? Wow, your mind is one
So you think there is a context in which the unlawful premeditated raping and killing of a two year old baby would be considered as absolutely right?
I would definitely not like to explore any further.
Originally posted by dj2beckerAre you dumb? I'm asking this, not as an insult, but a serious question? Do
[b]there is no absolutely right....
So the statement you wrote, "there is no absolute right" is not absolutely right?
In other words, nothing that you have said is absolutely right, so why do you think that I should listen to anything that you write?
The more you write to more incoherence you create.[/b]
people around you shake their heads a lot when you speak? Do they look at
each other in that internal knowingly kind of way when you begin your first
sentence? Are you often left out of serious discussions?
No, I don't really think that's true. I think you're of average intelligence and
possibly even a nice person in real life, but you find it incredibly amusing
ignoring people's posts simply to annoy.
Have fun now.
Originally posted by dj2beckerWhat did god tello joshua and his troops to do when they sacked Jericho?
I was pulling his leg, that is wrong. My appologies.
It is not logically possible for the same thing to be both right and wrong at the same time, and you know it. Quit pretending. You will have to learn to live with the fact that your reasoning is totally illogical.
PS: Where does the Bible state that it is right to murder and rape?
Why did Lot have to give up his daughter to mass rape by the soddomites?