Originally posted by jaywillAs far as I can see, the coming end of the world scenario has been seen coming for two thousand years and will be seen as coming by christians for the next two thousand years while the world just goes on surviving. We are making our own little hell on earth by our own level of stupidity by having totally unsustainable population growth and part of that due to the conflict between christians and muslims, who can out screw the other, make sure there are twice as many of one as the other, in the meantime, the entire human population goes from 6 billion to 7 billion to 8 billion to 10 billion, etc. We can't seem to learn a thing from the already ample evidence right in our own faces, namely China, and India, both well on their way to a population of 2 billion each. That will ensure the destruction of the human race as a direct result of your purported singular god given advantage of the human race, namely, Free Will.
[b]==============================
I lived in Jerusalem for three years and there are several purported graves of Jesus, visited them all, and the one thing interesting in all of them is this:
===================================
Everybody knows that there is tourist money to be made by advertizing the supposed grave of Jesus.
This is like "Jes ...[text shortened]... nd where the Spirit of the Lord is there is freedom." (2 Cor. 3:17)[/b][/b]
Originally posted by sonhouseI wonder what it would be like if future Creationists denied the existence of present Creationists because they insisted the Earth didn't exist that long ago.
As far as I can see, the coming end of the world scenario has been seen coming for two thousand years and will be seen as coming by christians for the next two thousand years while the world just goes on surviving. We are making our own little hell on earth by our own level of stupidity by having totally unsustainable population growth and part of that due ...[text shortened]... ect result of your purported singular god given advantage of the human race, namely, Free Will.
Would the universe explode due to a critical mass of idiocy?
Originally posted by sonhousenot really destruction, but i do see a major massacre in our future. whenever a population of individuals reaches a certain critical mass it will enter in conflict with someone for resources. when china can no longer support its citizens it will arm them and start a war with someone. if by chance nobody uses nukes(or only a few) the surviving humans may start over.
As far as I can see, the coming end of the world scenario has been seen coming for two thousand years and will be seen as coming by christians for the next two thousand years while the world just goes on surviving. We are making our own little hell on earth by our own level of stupidity by having totally unsustainable population growth and part of that due ...[text shortened]... ect result of your purported singular god given advantage of the human race, namely, Free Will.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungi deny the existence of albert einstein because the earth was created last thursday, and every human appears to have memories of the e=mc^2 dude. i am currently in conflict with yecs to have them change their erroneous ways and accept last thursday as the point of origin for the universe.
I wonder what it would be like if future Creationists denied the existence of present Creationists because they insisted the Earth didn't exist that long ago.
Would the universe explode due to a critical mass of idiocy?
3 edits
Originally posted by Zahlanzi….if by chance nobody uses nukes (or only a few) the surviving humans may start over.. .…
not really destruction, but i do see a major massacre in our future. whenever a population of individuals reaches a certain critical mass it will enter in conflict with someone for resources. when china can no longer support its citizens it will arm them and start a war with someone. if by chance nobody uses nukes(or only a few) the surviving humans may start over.
-and I fear those “surviving humans” would be very few in number if due to a world famine
-and I fear it is just a matter of logic that I would not be amongst those “surviving humans” (due to me being skinny thus having very little fat reserves + not having the means to stock up with food before the famine).
-and I fear that the only “surviving humans” would only fall in one of the following categories:
1, those that are so grotesquely obese before the famine that their fat reserves last them throughout the famine.
2, the extremely rich.
3, those that are in tribes that don’t depend on civilisation.
4, those that are willing to become cannibals.
Originally posted by Andrew HamiltonAround here we have the Amish who pretty much cut themselves out of the 20th century, much less the 21st. They could go on if the world lost the ability to make fuel for instance, just using horse like their great grandpa did. If the climate went to pot they would be in trouble just like everyone else. We would be back to hunter-gatherers.
[b] ….if by chance nobody uses nukes (or only a few) the surviving humans may start over.. .…
-and I fear those “surviving humans” would be very few in number if due to a world famine
-and I fear it is just a matter of logic that I would not be amongst those “surviving humans” (dew to me being skinny thus having very little fat reserves + n ...[text shortened]... e in tribes that don’t depend on civilisation.
4, those that are willing to become cannibals.[/b]
Originally posted by sonhouse======================================
As far as I can see, the coming end of the world scenario has been seen coming for two thousand years and will be seen as coming by christians for the next two thousand years while the world just goes on surviving. We are making our own little hell on earth by our own level of stupidity by having totally unsustainable population growth and part of that due ...[text shortened]... ect result of your purported singular god given advantage of the human race, namely, Free Will.
As far as I can see, the coming end of the world scenario has been seen coming for two thousand years and will be seen as coming by christians for the next two thousand years while the world just goes on surviving.
==============================================
It is viewed as "the end of the world" mostly from the standpoint of those who are not saved. For they put their hope in this world and not the kingdom of God.
The Christian life does not consist of nothing beside waiting for the end of the world. In all these years Christ is accumulating from the quantity of believers a subgroup of quality. These are a minority among tthe majority. When the time does come for the change of the age to the age of the millennial kingdom those who were overcomers will be co-kings with Him over the earth under His administration.
Conceivably this process of accumulating overcomers could continue of another 1000 years. But I seriously doubt it.
Another thing you should think about is "the end of the world" in your personal sense. Practically speaking your end will come at any moment when you die. The "end" could occur for any one of us this week. So we should not waste time under the guise of waiting for more and more evidence.
A decision about Christ really should be made. When will your personal "end of the world" come? You have no idea.
==========================================
We are making our own little hell on earth by our own level of stupidity by having totally unsustainable population growth and part of that due to the conflict between christians and muslims, who can out screw the ...
=========================================
Why don't you have confidence that Evolution will take care of it all? Why don't you have confidence that the stupendous advance of scientific technology will produce your utopia ?
Christ is called in Haggai "the desire of the nations". Christ is the one who everyone is really longing for.
So I feel to use time in a wise way. I need as much time for Christ to transform me and sanctify me. This takes time. I need more and more of Jesus infused into my personality to prepare me for both this age and the age to come.
I need time to be soaked with the Holy Spirit in every part of my soul. I believe that the only thing I can carry from this world to the next is the Christ that has been worked into my being.
Originally posted by sonhouseThere are two characteristics of your posts that cause you to loose credibility :
As far as I can see, the coming end of the world scenario has been seen coming for two thousand years and will be seen as coming by christians for the next two thousand years while the world just goes on surviving. We are making our own little hell on earth by our own level of stupidity by having totally unsustainable population growth and part of that due ...[text shortened]... ect result of your purported singular god given advantage of the human race, namely, Free Will.
1. Exaggeration - eg saying that both India and China are well on their way to 2 billion each when India is 1.1M and China 1.4 (2007).
2. Biasedness - claiming that the conflict between Christians and Muslims have caused increased population growth.
Originally posted by Andrew Hamiltoni don't agree with the number two. if civilization falls, there won't be the extremely rich. granted, the smart wealthy people might have had the connections and learned about the coming war and stocked up on food and commodities and then gathered enough people to defend them. but after the war, they wouldn't be able to claim property on said items without the servants turned associates.
[b] ….if by chance nobody uses nukes (or only a few) the surviving humans may start over.. .…
-and I fear those “surviving humans” would be very few in number if due to a world famine
-and I fear it is just a matter of logic that I would not be amongst those “surviving humans” (due to me being skinny thus having very little fat reserves + n ...[text shortened]... e in tribes that don’t depend on civilisation.
4, those that are willing to become cannibals.[/b]
if the bombs fall, 3 will be false as well. tribes that don't know radiation is coming will die fast. those that might have a clue might prepare better.
1 is a longshot. sure the fat people might be better suited for the nuclear winter. but a more slender person would simply kill the fat and steal its food.
my opinion is that there is no one recipe for survival. it will have to depend on what morally grey and black things you are prepared to do and how strong physically and mentally you are to do them.
Originally posted by Rajk999It is no exaggeration to to say both countries are well on their way to 2 billion population. It is another issue altogether if the planet will ALLOW such growth.
There are two characteristics of your posts that cause you to loose credibility :
1. Exaggeration - eg saying that both India and China are well on their way to 2 billion each when India is 1.1M and China 1.4 (2007).
2. Biasedness - claiming that the conflict between Christians and Muslims have caused increased population growth.
Why do you think the Catholic church condemns any form of birth control other than the rhythm method? It couldn't be so there will be that many more Catholics in the world would it? Nah, that couldn't be it🙂
But I may be worrying over nothing. You on the other hand may be ignoring big warning signs. It's not a nice planet humans have made here.
Well the planet is just fine, its the humans that suck for the most part.
What the human race need is a culling, a drop in population to under a billion total to stop the bleeding of the planet's resources.
Do you know how much of our world depends on oil? what happens when there is no more oil? How will we get our plastics? You think oil is just used for fuel and lubes? Guess what, oil is the basis for just about everything material in the planetary civilization, no more nylon, plastic in general, building materials, cell phones, computers, EVERYTHING depends on oil just about, not just fuel anymore.
3 edits
Originally posted by ZahlanziI think you are generally correct there. I made that simplistic list half seriously but also half jokingly (especially the bit about cannibals -lets just hope it always stays as a joke in real life). But, war or no war, I do think there is a serious risk of a world famine as the most serious consequence of a severe world oil shortage IF we haven’t developed economically viable alternatives in time. You may have already seen this because I have mentioned it in other threads but I have made a huge comprehensive posting (word count: 4629) explaining all my views on this very subject at:
i don't agree with the number two. if civilization falls, there won't be the extremely rich. granted, the smart wealthy people might have had the connections and learned about the coming war and stocked up on food and commodities and then gathered enough people to defend them. but after the war, they wouldn't be able to claim property on said items without ack things you are prepared to do and how strong physically and mentally you are to do them.
http://www.politic.co.uk/planet/10266-world-famine-coming-before-oil-runs-out.html
My main posting is the subject of that thread.
Originally posted by Andrew Hamiltondon't worry i made the reply as an exercise, spirituality tends to get a bit boring sometimes 😀
I think you are generally correct there. I made that simplistic list half seriously but also half jokingly (especially the bit about cannibals -lets just hope it always stays as a joke in real life). But, war or no war, I do think there is a serious risk of a world famine as the most serious consequence of a severe world oil shortage IF we haven’t de ...[text shortened]... 6-world-famine-coming-before-oil-runs-out.html
My main posting is the subject of that thread.
Originally posted by jaywillWhat do you say to someone destined for disappointment?
[b]======================================
As far as I can see, the coming end of the world scenario has been seen coming for two thousand years and will be seen as coming by christians for the next two thousand years while the world just goes on surviving.
==============================================
It is viewed as "the end of the world" most ...[text shortened]... carry from this world to the next is the Christ that has been worked into my being.[/b]