1. Standard memberRJHinds
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    08 Feb '12 05:14
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Our lives depends on our genetics, the food we eat, the lifestyle we lead, (do we smoke, drink, do dangerous things, etc.) It does not depend on your god's insane views which are certainly man made, no god would be that insanely jealous, it it were such a jealous god, it would be no god. A real god would be above such anthropormorphisms. Man was not made in ...[text shortened]... our clearly insane god. Of course it is insane, it was invented by insane people like Paul.
    God admits He is jealous. It is written in the Holy Bible. 😏
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    08 Feb '12 05:18
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Our lives depends on our genetics, the food we eat, the lifestyle we lead, (do we smoke, drink, do dangerous things, etc.) It does not depend on your god's insane views which are certainly man made, no god would be that insanely jealous, it it were such a jealous god, it would be no god. A real god would be above such anthropormorphisms. Man was not made in ...[text shortened]... our clearly insane god. Of course it is insane, it was invented by insane people like Paul.
    I suppose Jesus was also insane too, in your opinion, since He thought
    of Himself as the Son of God and called God, "My Father".
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    08 Feb '12 06:29
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    No need to go on, you cannot be wrong, so enough said.
    Kelly
    You cannot answer my questions can you? It is clearly you that has the blinders.
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    08 Feb '12 11:38
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    God admits He is jealous. It is written in the Holy Bible. 😏
    Those are words written in a book written by men to control other men and to subjugate women, and becoming less and less successful at both as time goes on and more and more people shed the shackles of organized religion.

    Like I said, you wouldn't know a real god if it came down and jumped up right in front of you, for one thing, human foibles would not be in its agenda, there would be no jealousy for starters. A real god would be so far above that crap it would be silly to even contemplate.

    God admits 'he' is jealous? Don't be ridiculous, try thinking about it for a while and maybe you will realize these are anthropomorphic attributes cleverly designed to attract weak willed people into being part of the leader's army of fear induced obedience to certain men's will.

    There would be nothing even close to anthropomorphic in any god. If you ever realize that your blinders would come off and you would finally start to think for yourself instead of bleating the words of ancient religions far outside their time.
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    08 Feb '12 12:43
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Those are words written in a book written by men to control other men and to subjugate women, and becoming less and less successful at both as time goes on and more and more people shed the shackles of organized religion.

    Like I said, you wouldn't know a real god if it came down and jumped up right in front of you, for one thing, human foibles would not ...[text shortened]... nk for yourself instead of bleating the words of ancient religions far outside their time.
    So you are agreeing with Dasa that it is a book written by animal killers, also?
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    08 Feb '12 14:47
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    You cannot answer my questions can you? It is clearly you that has the blinders.
    You cannnot be wrong, there is nothing to be said.
    Kelly
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    08 Feb '12 15:23
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    God admits He is jealous. It is written in the Holy Bible. 😏
    Is god perfect?
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    08 Feb '12 15:55
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    You cannnot be wrong, there is nothing to be said.
    Kelly
    And you know nothing. You think that you could be wrong about anything and that all doubt is equivalent. You don't even know whether or not World War I took place.

    Your refusal to answer my basic questions however tells us that you know you are being disingenuous.
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    08 Feb '12 17:45
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    So you are agreeing with Dasa that it is a book written by animal killers, also?
    Don't get me wrong, I eat as much meat as most people. But yes, that book was written by animal killers, some of them for eating, some for worship. My main point is people have been being duped by religious snake oil salesmen for 3000 years or more. Control men, subjugate women, that's the main theme. Do it by fear, invent an anthropomorphic god, make your god in the image of men, tell a lie, make it big enough and weak willed people will believe, desperate for a better life, even if it's after they die, so they are told.

    Of course, it's just co-incidental the leaders just happen to have the best food, best houses, best transport, whatever the era. This is not Jesus, this is that madman Paul who invented the whole so-called Christian thing. To make a religion acceptable in Rome, there had better be miracles and wow, Zing, Zap, now there are miracles. Prove I'm wrong.

    Tell me no women were burned at the stake accused of witchcraft for millenia. Tell me how many women have been made pope in the Catholic church, or much of any other church. I see some in Methodist churches but they are far and away in a great minority. Why is that? Someone with female parts can't be expected to preach with the big guys? You wouldn't accept a woman preacher?
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    08 Feb '12 17:48
    Originally posted by kevcvs57
    Is god perfect?
    http://www.aeriagloris.com/QuestionsAboutGod/IsGodPerfect.htm
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    08 Feb '12 18:09
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Don't get me wrong, I eat as much meat as most people. But yes, that book was written by animal killers, some of them for eating, some for worship. My main point is people have been being duped by religious snake oil salesmen for 3000 years or more. Control men, subjugate women, that's the main theme. Do it by fear, invent an anthropomorphic god, make your ...[text shortened]... arts can't be expected to preach with the big guys? You wouldn't accept a woman preacher?
    Although I was raised and baptized in the Baptist Church, I have attended
    many other Protestant Churches and even cults like the Mormans and JWs
    in my hunt for truth in worship. I have been too programmed against the
    Catholic Church to give them much of a chance even thought I recognize
    good people there, also. Currently I take communion with the Methodists
    since my wife is a member of the United Methodist Church. However, I
    have never changed my membership from the Baptist Church I attended
    before entering into service in the U.S. Army. This Methodist Church has
    had two women ministers while we have been there. The United Methodists
    generally move their minister around so they are at different size churches.
    I don't agree with you that Paul wanted to subjugate women or control men.
    He wanted men and women to be able to control themselves against sin, IMO.
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    09 Feb '12 01:471 edit
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    And you know nothing. You think that you could be wrong about anything and that all doubt is equivalent. You don't even know whether or not World War I took place.

    Your refusal to answer my basic questions however tells us that you know you are being disingenuous.
    Whatever, it does not matter that I answer your questions or not, it doesn't
    matter that you get anything presented to you, you are right, and cannot be
    wrong. So answering your questions, or calling what is going on here a
    discussion is pointless. You want to bad mouth me about that, run me down
    your good at that.
    Kelly
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    09 Feb '12 02:42
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Whatever, it does not matter that I answer your questions or not, it doesn't
    matter that you get anything presented to you, you are right, and cannot be
    wrong. So answering your questions, or calling what is going on here a
    discussion is pointless. You want to bad mouth me about that, run me down
    your good at that.
    Kelly
    All atheists, it appears, are good at that. I sometimes try to do a little
    bashing back, but it doesn't seem to do anything but make them more
    determined to do a better job running you down the next time. I keep
    hoping they are worth the effort, but now, I know it is not for most,
    but there just might be that one that needs one more bit of information
    to turn him around to accept the truth.
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    09 Feb '12 02:42
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Whatever, it does not matter that I answer your questions or not, it doesn't
    matter that you get anything presented to you, you are right, and cannot be
    wrong. So answering your questions, or calling what is going on here a
    discussion is pointless. You want to bad mouth me about that, run me down
    your good at that.
    Kelly
    All atheists, it appears, are good at that. I sometimes try to do a little
    bashing back, but it doesn't seem to do anything but make them more
    determined to do a better job running you down the next time. I keep
    hoping they are worth the effort, but now, I know it is not for most,
    but there just might be that one that needs one more bit of information
    to turn him around to accept the truth.
  15. Standard memberKellyJay
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    09 Feb '12 04:04
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    All atheists, it appears, are good at that. I sometimes try to do a little
    bashing back, but it doesn't seem to do anything but make them more
    determined to do a better job running you down the next time. I keep
    hoping they are worth the effort, but now, I know it is not for most,
    but there just might be that one that needs one more bit of information
    to turn him around to accept the truth.
    I get caught in the bashing too, I normally never like myself when I do.
    Kelly
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