Originally posted by blindfaith101You are illiterate, Blindfaith. I can't have a serious conversation with
You have spoken a great deal about the HOLY SPIRIT. You seem to know quite alot the HOLY SPIRIT. Do you believe in the HOLY SPIRIT? Are you saved?
you when you refuse to read the very basic things I ask you to read.
Note above that I said that 'being saved is a process.' Thus, neither
I nor you are saved, but in the process of it (according to strict, literal,
Christian, Biblical Doctrine).
Any 'Christian' who denies this is demonstrably not saved (according
to strict, literal, Christian, Biblical Doctrine) because they deny the
Truths within the very text they consider to be the Word of God.
Nemesio
Originally posted by RBHILLReally? All that Christianity is is a "personal relationship with Jesus Christ"? How about Jesus' words in Matthew 16:18:
God is a God of Love, why would a God of love not want his believers to know that they have eternal life. Then if you could not know then there would be no point in religion, which there is not because it is about a relationship with the creator made avalibale through Jesus Christ, it is not a religion.
18 And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church;
A "church" NOT a mere "personal relationship" but a CHURCH. Or was Jesus wrong about that too (maybe some words from Paul would help).
Originally posted by NemesioWhere in the BIBLE does it say that being Saved is a process? Once a person acceopts JESUS CHRIST as their Savior they are Saved. Yes you can lose your Salvation by sinning. But if stay in prayer, read your BIBLE, and have a continous relationship wiht GOD through JESUS CHRIST, you need not worry about your Salvation. GOD has given his promise through JESUS CHRIST, if you seek first after the Kingdom of Heaven you will make it.
We've been over this point, too. Being saved is a process.
There is no discrete moment in time during your natural life
that you are saved because you can always do things which
permanently jeapordize your salvation status (e.g., blaspheme
the Holy Spirit -- the unforgivable sin).
So, despite the 'security blanket' you keep trying to wrap around ...[text shortened]...
P.S., I love how calling me 'lady' is an insult to your puerile mind. It's
so very choice.
CHRIST is the judge of whose Salvation is the most righteous. Which is why HE said and taught on what the Kingdom of Heaven was, and how to get there.
Originally posted by blindfaith101BF: CHRIST is the judge of whose Salvation is the most righteous. Which is why HE said and taught on what the Kingdom of Heaven was, and how to get there.
Where in the BIBLE does it say that being Saved is a process? Once a person acceopts JESUS CHRIST as their Savior they are Saved. Yes you can lose your Salvation by sinning. But if stay in prayer, read your BIBLE, and have a continous relationship wiht GOD through JESUS CHRIST, you need not worry about your Salvation. GOD has given his promise through ...[text shortened]... hteous. Which is why HE said and taught on what the Kingdom of Heaven was, and how to get there.
In Matthew 25. Read it and it might open your eyes.
Originally posted by no1marauderFirst off Peter is a person.
Really? All that Christianity is is a "personal relationship with Jesus Christ"? How about Jesus' words in Matthew 16:18:
18 And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church;
A "church" NOT a mere "personal relationship" but a CHURCH. Or was Jesus wrong about that too (maybe some words from Paul would help).
Second he was talking about Planet Earth.
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And Jesus also talks about abiding in him.
And he aslo says come to me all who are weary and heavy laiden and I will give you rest.
Originally posted by blindfaith101According the NT, one who believes in Jesus is saved, yes.
Where in the BIBLE does it say that being Saved is a process? Once a person acceopts JESUS CHRIST as their Savior they are Saved. Yes you can lose your Salvation by sinning. But if stay in prayer, read your BIBLE, and have a continous relationship wiht GOD through JESUS CHRIST, you need not worry about your Salvation. GOD has given his promise through ...[text shortened]... hteous. Which is why HE said and taught on what the Kingdom of Heaven was, and how to get there.
But what is entailed in believing in Jesus? It's not just a confession
with your lips. That is insufficient to demonstrate your 'faith' and
will not merit the gift of grace that is salvation.
Believing in Jesus entails an awful lot of things.
Do you know that you do all these things? Do you even know what
they are? I bet you can't list even 10 things.
Let's start here: Did you feed the hungry today, or recently?
If you didn't, then you can know that you aren't saved. And, at any
one time, you probably aren't doing all of those things that being a
True Christian entails. As such, you cannot possibly know that you
are saved.
Nemesio
Originally posted by no1marauderIt saddens me to see these wretched souls being led down the Pauline Pathway to Perdition.
BF: CHRIST is the judge of whose Salvation is the most righteous. Which is why HE said and taught on what the Kingdom of Heaven was, and how to get there.
In Matthew 25. Read it and it might open your eyes.
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Originally posted by no1marauderIt your own fault for rejecting Christ, God has given you so so so many chances and you always rejcet him. You can't put the blame on anyone but yourself. You can't be like Adam who Blamed God for the woman for making him eat the apple, it was his own fault.
I a loser
Originally posted by RBHILLIts you that is rejecting Christ ,,you follow Paul not Christ.
It your own fault for rejecting Christ, God has given you so so so many chances and you always rejcet him. You can't put the blame on anyone but yourself. You can't be like Adam who Blamed God for the woman for making him eat the apple, it was his own fault.