Originally posted by RBHILLThat's Paul saying that . more Pauline doctrine and that's also a DIRECT contradiction of Christ's words in Mathew 25.
I know Christ died he paid for it, so now we get it free.
And now these are not Pauls woulds they are the Holy Spirits words spoken through Paul.
Ephesians 2:8-10 For by GRACE you have been SAVED through FAITH; and this is NOT your own doing, it is the GIFT of God-- 9 not because of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
Originally posted by frogstompno it's not, see all a Atheist looks at is Matt. Ch. 25.
That's Paul saying that . more Pauline doctrine and that's also a DIRECT contradiction of Christ's words in Mathew 25.
The goat is a non-believer, whale the sheep is a believer.
But satan has you blinded, that is why you don't accept Christ as your savior.
And don't try to copy and say that I am the one that is blind, no I have been set free as in Christ words say so. And if you copy or say the same words back to me that I say to you that is satan using you for himself, because all he does is try to copy God.
Originally posted by RBHILLThe goat is a non-believer, whale the sheep is a believer.
no it's not, see all a Atheist looks at is Matt. Ch. 25.
The goat is a non-believer, whale the sheep is a believer.
But satan has you blinded, that is why you don't accept Christ as your savior.
And don't try to copy and say that I am the one that is blind, no I have been set free as in Christ words say so. And if you copy or say the same words b ...[text shortened]... e that I say to you that is satan using you for himself, because all he does is try to copy God.
Either you can't read or are deliberately twisting Jesus' words. We've extensively discussed Matthew 25 before: it says NOT ONE WORD about "believers" or "non-believers" or "faith". It says ALL nations will be divided into to sheep and goats and they WILL ALL be judged on how they treated their fellow Man. I know you members of the fundamentalist cult hate Jesus' words in Matthew 25 because it contradicts your whole twisted philosophy, but there it is right in your holy book. You don't have a secret decoder ring; we can all read it and it's absolutely clear. Sorry to bust your bubble, RB, but if Jesus is right you ain't getting to Heaven just by spouting a few magic words and acting like a self-righteous jerk. Tough titty for you.
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Originally posted by RBHILLPaul ain't Christ.. neither are you!
no it's not, see all a Atheist looks at is Matt. Ch. 25.
The goat is a non-believer, whale the sheep is a believer.
But satan has you blinded, that is why you don't accept Christ as your savior.
And don't try to copy and say that ...[text shortened]... tan using you for himself, because all he does is try to copy God.
Christ defines sheep and goats in Mathew 25 ,, How dare you put your Pauline spin on Christ's own words..
Mathew 25 is Christ's words are not an Atheist's or Satan's. Take them or leave them, but dont try to dilute their meaning.
Originally posted by no1marauderAMEN !
The goat is a non-believer, whale the sheep is a believer.
Either you can't read or are deliberately twisting Jesus' words. We've extensively discussed Matthew 25 before: it says NOT ONE WORD about "believers" or "non-believers" or "faith". It says ALL nations will be divided into to sheep and goats and they WILL ALL be judged on how ...[text shortened]... just by spouting a few magic words and acting like a self-righteous jerk. Tough titty for you.
Originally posted by frogstompI never said I was, but I see that you don't understand but when you become a Born Again Christian Jesus/God will show you his truth, but I will say to you that you don't have to accept the truth of what I believe.
Paul ain't Christ.. neither are you!
Christ defines sheep and goats in Mathew 25 ,, How dare you put your Pauline spin on Christ's own words..
Mathew 25 is Christ's words are not an Atheist's or Satan's. Take them or leave them, but dont try to dilute their meaning.
Originally posted by RBHILLHere you go with your fallacious 'Born Again' lie. You obviously aren't
I never said I was, but I see that you don't understand but when you become a Born Again Christian Jesus/God will show you his truth, but I will say to you that you don't have to accept the truth of what I believe.
receptive to the Holy Spirit, because you deny the Truth of what the
Bible explicitly says.
Nemesio
Originally posted by RBHILLWe've been over this point, too. Being saved is a process.
Look lady you can believe what you want.
I know I am saved and that is all that matters.
There is no discrete moment in time during your natural life
that you are saved because you can always do things which
permanently jeapordize your salvation status (e.g., blaspheme
the Holy Spirit -- the unforgivable sin).
So, despite the 'security blanket' you keep trying to wrap around
yourself, you know nothing (and that's what the Bible says).
Furthermore, one must wonder, O Good Christian, have you fed
the hungry lately? Have you visited the imprisoned? Have you
given clothes those in need?
If not, then you DEFINITELY are not saved, because a saved person
would feel the compulsion to do these things all the time.
Nemesio
P.S., I love how calling me 'lady' is an insult to your puerile mind. It's
so very choice.
Originally posted by NemesioYou have spoken a great deal about the HOLY SPIRIT. You seem to know quite alot the HOLY SPIRIT. Do you believe in the HOLY SPIRIT? Are you saved?
Here you go with your fallacious 'Born Again' lie. You obviously aren't
receptive to the Holy Spirit, because you deny the Truth of what the
Bible explicitly says.
Nemesio
Originally posted by frogstompGod is a God of Love, why would a God of love not want his believers to know that they have eternal life. Then if you could not know then there would be no point in religion, which there is not because it is about a relationship with the creator made avalibale through Jesus Christ, it is not a religion.
Paul ain't Christ.. neither are you!
Christ defines sheep and goats in Mathew 25 ,, How dare you put your Pauline spin on Christ's own words..
Mathew 25 is Christ's words are not an Atheist's or Satan's. Take them or leave them, but dont try to dilute their meaning.