Originally posted by RJHindsBut you didn't prove it though did you...you just parroted your false book the Bible. ;]
You don't have to prove anything to make your assertions.
I am only pointing out that the assertion that God does not exist
is a lie. And I gave the proof for that earlier. Since God does
exist you can not prove He does not exist. Any attempt would
be futile.
Originally posted by RJHindsNo, it is all the proof a naive fundamentalist needs who doesn't understand the concept of circular reasoning. Some of us prefer our proofs to have a little bit more integrity.
That is all the proof a reasonable person with common
sense should need.
Did I ever tell you about my faith in Middle Earth? Indeed I can prove it's true by parroting the LoTR!
Originally posted by AgergHe exists.
I have also proven Satan doesn't exist ;]
A Texan lass went to Manhattan
And came vis-à-vis with the Satan.
Both top on original sin
they shar’d a few moments like dream
although the petroleum jelly
run out when she turned on her belly
(the mods will assume that I ‘m mean)
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Originally posted by black beetleMore likely, we are misunderstanding each other as usual.
Amazing. It seems to me you are becoming a hardcore Madhyamika. I bow😵
No. Everybody's point of attention is constanty in flux, otherwise we would be dead in the water. On the other hand, I still haven't see the same man entering the same river twice
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And I am claiming that we are dead in the water. The rivers flow is an illusion. In your desire to base your world view on the concept that everything is an illusion created by your consciousness, you have forgotten that the greatest illusion of all is your consciousness itself.
Originally posted by twhiteheadI'll add this: Peter Koestenbaum, in The Vitality of Death: Essays in Existential Psychology and Philosophy, presented the view (I paraphrase) that regardless of how we envision the world, some things we encounter are more refractory than others. An example, I suppose, is that we can decide whether to think of the experience of eating a red strawberry or of eating a green olive, we can't so easily decide to experience the eating of a red strawberry while eating a green olive.
More likely, we are misunderstanding each other as usual.
[b]No. Everybody's point of attention is constanty in flux, otherwise we would be dead in the water. On the other hand, I still haven't see the same man entering the same river twice
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And I am claiming that we are dead in the water. The rivers flow is an illusion. In your desire to base ...[text shortened]... sciousness, you have forgotten that the greatest illusion of all is your consciousness itself.[/b]
So, we can decide that the river's flow is an illusion, or that our consciousness is an illusion, or that some other thing we name is an illusion, but that does not change it (if it did, it would merely be a different illusion). SO, OK, everything is an illusion. I still have to deal with the illusory need to deal with the illusory things in my illusory life. They still make up my reality.
Originally posted by AgergA statement can be true or false or, if you are like Satan, half true.
and the statement that I have a proof satan doesn't exist being true means I have not been deceived by satan and thus...
I do have a proof your God doesn't exist ;]
However, your statements are totally false. I hope that means you
do not have any satanic influence on you.
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Originally posted by RJHindsand I assume you have a proof that they are false? and do you seriously believe in a crimson horned dude called Satan in some fiery garden that's going to burn all `naughty' people for ever and ever and ... and ever??? jeez!
A statement can be true or false or, if you are like Satan, half true.
However, your statements are totally false. I hope that means you
do not have any satanic influence on you.
Originally posted by twhiteheadAs usually, you probably failed to read my posts at this thread too because they are a wee lengthy I reckon, and therefore your conclusion is irrelevant to the opinions I expressed earlier. No problem🙂
More likely, we are misunderstanding each other as usual.
[b]No. Everybody's point of attention is constanty in flux, otherwise we would be dead in the water. On the other hand, I still haven't see the same man entering the same river twice
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And I am claiming that we are dead in the water. The rivers flow is an illusion. In your desire to base ...[text shortened]... sciousness, you have forgotten that the greatest illusion of all is your consciousness itself.[/b]
I never claimed that "everything is an illusion". I claim that the reality the way we perceive it is not some kind of absolute truth that exists out there separated from us as if it had inherent existence. I claim that the reality enveloped by us is merely a projection of our mind. There are countless realities as solid and at the same time as illusionairy as ours, all in full dependence to the sentient beings that grasp them the way they do acording to their nature. In other words I claim that our reality is fully dependent to our consiousness and, due to the fact that it is just a (projected by our awareness) fractal of an holistic reality that we are unable to envelop fully, it is as real as a dream. As a result, I said that the (both illusionairy and existent simultaneously at a specfic level of awareness) reality we perceive is nothing but an illusion that must be taken seriously. This time I hope you comprehend🙂
Now: if the river's flow is an illusion, cut the rope of your boat and see for yourself what will happen
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Originally posted by JS357We can decide whatever we please alright according to the nature of the reality we are experiencing and according to the rules that hold this specific reality in existence, but this is not the case.
I'll add this: Peter Koestenbaum, in The Vitality of Death: Essays in Existential Psychology and Philosophy, presented the view (I paraphrase) that regardless of how we envision the world, some things we encounter are more refractory than others. An example, I suppose, is that we can decide whether to think of the experience of eating a red strawberry or of ea ...[text shortened]... ory need to deal with the illusory things in my illusory life. They still make up my reality.
The case is that we have to deal with the physical world, with our inner world and with the world of our ideas. As a result, we end up creating, projecting and enveloping our own reality that lacks of inherent existence because, as a projection of our 6 senses alone, our reality does not exist out there separated from us
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Originally posted by AgergSatan appears as a beatiful angel of light not a crimson horned dude.
and I assume you have a proof that they are false? and do you seriously believe in a crimson horned dude called Satan in some fiery garden that's going to burn all `naughty' people for ever and ever and ... and ever??? jeez!
Remember, Satan is a deceiver and the Father of lies.