Revelation 3:20

Originally posted by @rajk999
Actually here is how it goes:

You question
I answer
You dont like what Jesus said so you fabricate something not in the bible
Then I call you a moron for doing that.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Give me one example of something Jesus said that I don’t like and give me me one example of something I fabricated that’s not in the Bible. If you can’t, this is just another of your ad hominems.

Originally posted by @rajk999
In the teachings of Jesus Christ, Sermon on the Mount, Parable of the Good Samaritan, Story of the Rich man and Lazarus, and in Matt 25 [just to name a few] , Jesus detailed by what criteria will someone enter the Kingdom of God, and its all good works and righteousness living. You dont seem to agree with that.

You are fond of the expression 'doing good ...[text shortened]... d suggesting that it is not a good thing. The Bible has no such expression, directly or implied.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
I am all for good works and righteous living. But what were the very first words of Jesus ministry? ‘Repent and believe in the gospel.’ Good works follow this else you are putting the cart before the horse. Do you believe everyone naturally has the capacity to do good works and live righteously without a change of heart?

" ... no longer walk as the Gentiles also walk in the vanity of their mind, being darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God ..." (Eph. 4:18a)

"But I saw, Walk by the Spirit and you shall by no means fulfill the lust of the flesh." (Gal. 5:16)

"As therefore you have RECEIVED the Christ, Jesus the Lord, WALK in Him." (Col. 2:6)

"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God." (Rom. 8:14)

Originally posted by @sonship
..Notice that it is not the future tense as Rajk999 teaches - ie. "As many as WILL BE led by the Spirit". In the church age it is expected that they would be led by the Spirit.

"The Spirit Himself witnesses with our spirit that we are children of God." (Rom. 16)

" For you have not received a spirit of slavery bringing you into fear again, but you have received a spirit of sonship in which we cry Abba Father!"

"For the law of the Spirit of life has freed me in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and of death." (Rom. 8:2)

"As newborn babes, long for the guileless milk of the word in order that by it you may grow into salvation." (1 Peter 2:2)

"And the slaves of the master of the house came and said to him, Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? Where then did the tares come from?

And he said to them, An enemy has done this. And the slaves said to him, Do you want us then to go and collect them? But he said, No, lest while collecting the tares, you uproot the wheat along with them.

Let both grow together unti the harvest, and at the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, Collect first the tares and bind them into bundles to burn them up, but the wheat gather into my barn." (Matt. 13:27-30)

"Therefore just as the tares are collected and burned up with fire, so will it be at the consummation of the age.

The Son of Man will send His angels and they will collect out of His kingdom all the stumbling blocks and those who practice lawlessness, And will cast them into the furnace of fire. In that place there will be the weeping and teh gnashing of teeth.

Then the righteous will shine forth like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear." (Matt. 13:40-43)

Originally posted by @sonship
Further proof that the new life has been received by Christians IN the church age.

[b]16.) The true wheat is growing and the false wheat (the tares) are also growing before the second coming of Christ.

See the parable of the wheat and tares Matthew 13:24-30.

[quote] "And the slaves of the master of the house came and said to him, S ...[text shortened]... ine Father and therefore were regenerated in the church age. There is the need for them to grow.

Originally posted by @rajk999

"For I consider that the sufferings of this present age are not worthy to be compared with the coming glory to be revealed upon us. (Rom. 8:18)

For the anxious watching of the creation eagerly awaits the revelation of the sons of God. (v.19)

In hope that the creation itself will also be freed from the slavery of corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. (v.21)

For we know that the whole creation groans together and travails in pain together until now. (v.22)

And not only so, but we ourselves also, WHO HAVE THE FIRSTFRUITS OF THE SPIRIT [born again, regenerated] even we ourselves groan in ourselves eagerly awaiting sonship, the redemption of our body." (v.23)

Originally posted by @rajk999
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, [b]in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. (Matthew 19:28 KJV) [/b]

Originally posted by @sonship

[b] "Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, then I will come int to him and dine with him and he with Me.

He who overcomes, to him I will give to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame sat with My Father on His throne." (Rev. 3:20,21)

Verse 20 has been used for gospel prea ...[text shortened]... he Lord Jesus in.

But that is a kind of borrowing the passage somewhat out of its context.[/b]