Righteousness in Christ

Originally posted by RJHinds
But He is also the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. The bodies of those three died at some point in time, right? So their souls must still be alive, right?

They are alive in Jehovah God's memory.

Originally posted by roigam
They are alive in Jehovah God's memory.

So being alive in Jehovah God's memory is what you call being in paradise. How nice.

Originally posted by RJHinds
So being alive in Jehovah God's memory is what you call being in paradise. How nice.

How difficult is it for you to understand that at some point they will be resurrected? You believe in the resurrection don't you? Well they are living as far as God is concerned and ill be resurrected to the earth when it becomes a paradise. the Bible makes it very clear that no one ascended to heaven prior to Jesus Christ.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
How difficult is it for you to understand that at some point they will be resurrected? You believe in the resurrection don't you? Well they are living as far as God is concerned and ill be resurrected to the earth when it becomes a paradise. the Bible makes it very clear that no one ascended to heaven prior to Jesus Christ.

" the Bible makes it very clear that no one ascended to heaven prior to Jesus Christ."

Actually, the Bible makes it clear that only Jesus Christ ascended to heaven, but Enoch and Elisha were taken up to heaven.

The Bible also makes it clear that if one is "in Christ" they will be going to heaven.

The resurrection you are referring to is the resurrection of the Old Testament saints into the Kingdom of God that Jesus will establish on the earth for a thousand years.

This notion of a paradise on earth is just an adolescent dream of a child's playground. After Jesus returns to this earth there will still be nations and cities and all the rest. But there will be peace and a partial lifting of the curse. At the end of the thousand years God will roll up this universe as a scroll and create a whole new one. That will be paradise.

Originally posted by josephw
[b]" the Bible makes it very clear that no one ascended to heaven prior to Jesus Christ."

Actually, the Bible makes it clear that only Jesus Christ ascended to heaven, but Enoch and Elisha were taken up to heaven.

The Bible also makes it clear that if one is "in Christ" they will be going to heaven.

The resurrection you are referring to is the ...[text shortened]... rs God will roll up this universe as a scroll and create a whole new one. That will be paradise.[/b]

The resurrection is a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous, where you get the idea that its some kind of resurrection of some kind of saints I have no idea.

The original paradise was on earth and unless you have evidence to the contrary Gods purpose has not changed. If you cannot even grasp this fundamental principle i don't hold out much hope for you.

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Sorry, not with your attitude, rude.

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Scriptural basis has already been provided. You are only interested in being contentious, the Christian is counselled to stay away from people that are contentious. That would be you. Roigam is wise to simply ignore you. You are simply a time waster and people have better things to do with their time than waste them remonstrating with you.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
The resurrection is a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous, where you get the idea that its some kind of resurrection of some kind of saints I have no idea.

The original paradise was on earth and unless you have evidence to the contrary Gods purpose has not changed. If you cannot even grasp this fundamental principle i don't hold out much hope for you.

I believe josephw has it figured out much better than you. So perhaps there is no need for you to hope for him. 😏

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Scriptural basis has already been provided. You are only interested in being contentious, the Christian is counselled to stay away from people that are contentious. That would be you. Roigam is wise to simply ignore you. You are simply a time waster and people have better things to do with their time than waste them remonstrating with you.

I've read this miserable thread twice, I can find no scriptural basis quoted here for that assertion, so in what part of the Bible does it say that Abraham lives in God's memory?

Originally posted by RJHinds
I believe josephw has it figured out much better than you. So perhaps there is no need for you to hope for him. 😏

what you believe and what is actually represent truth are rarely if ever synonymous. Please learn from this Ronaldo Jonah Hindu, your personal opinion/testimony carries no weight here.