Sarah Palin and Holy War in Iraq?

Originally posted by twhitehead
So should we not criticize Hitler as we really do not know whether or not God approved of his actions?

logical

Originally posted by twhitehead
So should we not criticize Hitler as we really do not know whether or not God approved of his actions?

I find no problem with criticizing Hitler---just not God.

Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
What do you think Jesus would have to say about people who drown cats for fun? Do you think Jesus ever threw rocks at the neighborhood sheep to torment them?

I don't think He would have condoned it.

No.

Originally posted by Nemesio
Originally posted by PsychoPawn
[b]At what point can a gestating human embryo start rejecting or worshipping the one true god?

Originally posted by PinkFloyd
Conception.

What justification can you offer for this belief? I offer as my rebuttal for this belief the knowledge
that the ability to worship/accept or reject God req ...[text shortened]... the value of
x versus y (that is a brain) something a newly-conceived zygote lacks.

Nemesio[/b]

None---and I don't have to.

Originally posted by Nemesio
Do you suppose that this reflects a wholesome, Christ-centered attitude?

Why do you afford consideration to the rights of humans but not any other animals?

Nemesio

Because I don't like animals.

Originally posted by PsychoPawn

If you are so sensitive that you think me asking you a question about where you draw your conclusions from or whether you have any evidence to back your claims is an insult or is disrespectful then with all due respect, you are just too sensitive.

And you, the font of all knowledge, gets to decide this? I don't think so, Sue. Now, if you were to say that I'm too sensitive IN YOUR OPINION, then that might be correct (not to mention a lot more courteous). But you see, your opinion is like your anal orifice: everybody's got one, but not everybody wants to hear yours.

Originally posted by PinkFloyd
The rights of animals, and consideration of their suffering, occupies approximately 0% of my time. I can't speak for God. As to right & wrong, I can only say his ways are not our ways. But I do believe that His determination of what "suffering of the innocents" is far different from mine, or yours.

The rights of animals, and consideration of their suffering, occupies approximately 0% of my time.

Humans are part of the animal kingdom, you know. Indeed, you are an animal. So reflection on your own rights and suffering has occupied 0% of your time?

Out of curiosity, I wonder why you privilege human suffering above non-human suffering. Actually, further, I wonder why your deliberations are, as you yourself suggest, not even the slightest bit responsive to the suffering of non-humans. Do you have some reasons for this?

Originally posted by PinkFloyd
None---and I don't have to.

Well, I certainly think you ought to provide some reasons for that claim of yours that Nemesio cited -- a claim that appears to be, quite frankly, ridiculous.

Originally posted by PinkFloyd
Because I don't like animals.

Even if that is true, that doesn't seem sufficient to warrant your total insensitivity to their suffering. For example, suppose I don't much like you. Even so, that wouldn't seem to imply that I am justified in totally ignoring any considerations regarding your rights or suffering.

Originally posted by PinkFloyd
I find no problem with criticizing Hitler---just not God.

What if God came down from heaven and engaged in widescale systematic genocide? Would you think it okay to criticize Him then? According to the OT, hasn't He already sanctioned genocide?

Originally posted by LemonJello
Well, I certainly think you ought to provide some reasons for that claim of yours that Nemesio cited -- a claim that appears to be, quite frankly, ridiculous.

If you were filled with the Hooooooly Spirit, you would understand that your puny 'reasoning' is just a waste of time. 😀

Originally posted by SwissGambit
If you were filled with the Hooooooly Spirit, you would understand that your puny 'reasoning' is just a waste of time. 😀

They're filled with something alright.

I like how in another current thread josephw explains that he only sounds foolish because he is so much more enlightened. Yeah, that must be it.

Originally posted by LemonJello
What if God came down from heaven and engaged in widescale systematic genocide? Would you think it okay to criticize Him then? According to the OT, hasn't He already sanctioned genocide?

No. and No, I don't agree. Job said "though He slay me I will still follow Him (paraphrased)."

Originally posted by LemonJello
[b]The rights of animals, and consideration of their suffering, occupies approximately 0% of my time.

Humans are part of the animal kingdom, you know. Indeed, you are an animal. So reflection on your own rights and suffering has occupied 0% of your time?

Out of curiosity, I wonder why you privilege human suffering above non-human suffering. A ...[text shortened]... the slightest bit responsive to the suffering of non-humans. Do you have some reasons for this?[/b]

I place humans so far above the lower animals that you might as well be talking to me about the rights of amoebas. It's really simple--I'm not an animal person. I don't support PETA, or Save the Whales; I don't mind if a rat or an ape is sacrificed to make a weapon or a deterrent to a weapon, or even a cosmetic. It just doesn't enter my sphere of concern.