27 Jul 12
Originally posted by sonhouseIt says, "The human capacity of self-perception, self-reflection and consciousness development are among the unsolved mysteries of neuroscience."
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-07-seat-meta-consciousness-brain.html
It would show the mind and the brain are one and the same, not separate as some people think.
There is nothing about showing that the mind and the brain are one and the same. The article does not even mention the word "mind" at all.
28 Jul 12
Originally posted by sonhouseSo morality is just a matter of chemical reactions in the brain then ?
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-07-seat-meta-consciousness-brain.html
It would show the mind and the brain are one and the same, not separate as some people think.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHumans are not as complex as you would like to believe. Sure, complex as hell, but not on a supernatural level. Just a chemical engine that we are getting to know more and more about as time goes by.
something far more complex than these lamebo materialistic explanations.
There has even been found in a region of the brain where if you zap it with a pulsed magnetic field of a certain pulse recurrence frequency and strength, it elicits the response of the people thinking there is a god present, in short, the religious center of the brain that can be artificially manipulated to make you think you are in the presence of supernatural entities. All thanks to those mere chemicals flying around inside your and everyone else's brain.
28 Jul 12
Originally posted by sonhouseSo is it that you and other atheists do not have this religious center in the brain? Or perhaps it has not been zapped to turn it on? Is that religious center the result of millions of years of evolution? If so, why should this be something that is necessary to our evolution? Maybe, it would be better if you could first explain how the DNA information language code got into a cell to keep it alive. Perhaps then we could accept your theories more readily.
Humans are not as complex as you would like to believe. Sure, complex as hell, but not on a supernatural level. Just a chemical engine that we are getting to know more and more about as time goes by.
There has even been found in a region of the brain where if you zap it with a pulsed magnetic field of a certain pulse recurrence frequency and strength, i ...[text shortened]... tities. All thanks to those mere chemicals flying around inside your and everyone else's brain.
29 Jul 12
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Originally posted by sonhouseSurely the "god present" would be a reflection/projection of the subjects pre-conceived notions of what a god would look like. What would an atheist see? a bunch of numbers 🙂
Humans are not as complex as you would like to believe. Sure, complex as hell, but not on a supernatural level. Just a chemical engine that we are getting to know more and more about as time goes by.
There has even been found in a region of the brain where if you zap it with a pulsed magnetic field of a certain pulse recurrence frequency and strength, i ...[text shortened]... tities. All thanks to those mere chemicals flying around inside your and everyone else's brain.
29 Jul 12
Originally posted by karoly aczelI wish you could explain how these chemical reactions are activated to produce morality in the brain. I know we learn morality from teachings like those in the Holy Bible; but unlike Atheists, I do not believe morality is a result of evolution.
On one level, yes, thats exactly what it is.
29 Jul 12
Originally posted by RJHindsWhat about morality 10,000 years ago? There was no bible then. Also, what about the morality of peoples who never heard of or saw the bible or a christian? What about their morality?
I wish you could explain how these chemical reactions are activated to produce morality in the brain. I know we learn morality from teachings like those in the Holy Bible; but unlike Atheists, I do not believe morality is a result of evolution.
29 Jul 12
Originally posted by RJHindsyes, we all know you believe morality is a result of some guy eating a fruit from a tree.
I wish you could explain how these chemical reactions are activated to produce morality in the brain. I know we learn morality from teachings like those in the Holy Bible; but unlike Atheists, I do not believe morality is a result of evolution.
29 Jul 12
Originally posted by sonhouseI doubt if we humans were around 10,000 years ago. But the early humans must have learned their morality from Adam and Eve.
What about morality 10,000 years ago? There was no bible then. Also, what about the morality of peoples who never heard of or saw the bible or a christian? What about their morality?
29 Jul 12
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Originally posted by sonhouse
What did you think it was? Floating consciousness somewhere outside your body?
What did you think it was? Floating consciousness somewhere outside your body?
I'll take that as a "yes" - there are no moral sentiments except chemicals interacting. There is then no objective standard of right and wrong.
Do you know the chemical composition of a murder molecule ?
Do you know the weight of a hate molecule or the structure of a love molecule ?
Would you say that Adolf Hitler did no real evil to slaughter 6,000,000 Jews ? Was it not really evil, but only a bad chemical reaction ?