Originally posted by chessplayer111Why does God care about you (or me) having sex?
sex before marriage is not ok! if your truly a christian and beleive in waiting to please god then thats a good thing
In fact, what's it got to do with him/her/it at all?
It's all a bit voyeuristic for me - some guy watching me while I do it.
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Originally posted by telerionAs I said before the individual plays a huge role:
[b]Isn't God usually the one hardening peoples' hearts?
Me thinks the individual has a great contribution to the process.
I'm just thinking from the cases in the bible where some one's heart is hardened. Doesn't it usually say that the Lord did it?[/b]
Mark 8:17 - And when Jesus knew it, he saith unto them, Why reason ye, because ye have no bread? perceive ye not yet, neither understand? have ye your heart yet hardened?
Hebrews 3:8 - Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
Hebrews 3:13 - But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
Hebrews 3:15 - While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
Hebrews 4:7 - Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
i think that sex before marraige, for a christain certainly, is not a good thing, primarily as this is not what God wants. as for non-christians, it is not anything i can realy comment upon. indeed, noone really can as you can only experience one or the other. you cannot try both sex outside of marraige and save yourself for marraige...
However, some of my friends tell me that they wish they had saved themselves at least for someone special, if not for marraige, rather then just jumping into bed with the first willing person.
Originally posted by geniusI definitely agree with your friends.
However, some of my friends tell me that they wish they had saved themselves at least for someone special, if not for marraige, rather then just jumping into bed with the first willing person.
Saving yourself for marriage is generally a bad idea. I witnessed its effects on the churches I grew up in. Kids rushed into marriage too early because their hormones were pushing them along. On the other end, there were quite a few bitter ladies in their 30's still waiting to get laid.
That said, I think waiting to have sex with some one with whom you share an intimate relationship is a very good idea. I do wish that my first time had been with some one else. My first high school sweet heart would have been a good one, but alas we were blinded by the "Love Waits" crap.
No more than a year after we broke up, she rushed into a marriage with a real loser. By the grace of Zeus, I managed to lose my virginity quickly in college, and after some tough months of introspection, began to realize that the "Love Waits" doctrine had been a big lie.
I'm married now and have an excellent relationship. I'd be surprised if my old girlfriend could say the same.
Originally posted by chessplayer111Why are you so convinced this would please god. The only reference to sex is by god thou shalt not commit adultery not thou shalt not have sex outside marrage. The christian church does not feel comfortable with sex as it cannot make its mind up. But if you do something fot god then great and a blessing on you. Nathen the prophet did this for life but god never asked him, after him there was a prohet who god said you will not take a woman (forgot his name at moment ) What god to me has a problem with in sex is the way we use it and its offshoots of fornification of the heart and mind leading to be decived by the deciver and away from all that is the truth and the light of salvation.
sex before marriage is not ok! if your truly a christian and beleive in waiting to please god then thats a good thing
Originally posted by KaboooombaI think it's good. It's incredible the way you support and care for one another. When I see people who have been married for say 60 years, I can't help but be amazed. Can you imagine being 85 years old? Your parents have died. Many or all of your siblings and early friends have either passed away or faded from your life. Your kids are probably too busy to visit anymore. Who remembers you? Who remembers how it was when you were young? With whom can you share a fond moment of reflection about "the good old days"? Who has witnessed and can testify to your life?
how do Christians feel about two people who don't even believe in God getting married. what's the point, aside from the name and societal standings etc ?
I think having such an intimate partner is one of the most precious benefits of a long, successful marriage.
Why should non-xians not get married?
Originally posted by telerionwhat's the difference between two Christians and two Non-Christians getting married?
I think it's good. It's incredible the way you support and care for one another. When I see people who have been married for say 60 years, I can't help but be amazed. Can you imagine being 85 years old? Your parents have died. Many or all of your siblings and early friends have either passed away or faded from your life. Your kids are probably too bus ...[text shortened]... precious benefits of a long, successful marriage.
Why should non-xians not get married?
Originally posted by KaboooombaNot sure how this question is meant to be answered.
how do Christians feel about two people who don't even believe in God getting married. what's the point, aside from the name and societal standings etc ?
A person who doesn't believe in God can still serve His purpose and help His plan by acting on the dictates of conscience based on natural law. So, if a non-believing couple were to get married, they would still be participating in His plan.
Or was your question aimed at non-Christians?
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Originally posted by lucifershammeri guess i don't understand how God can marry two people who don't believe or want anything to do with Him. is it the government that marries these people and not God?
Not sure how this question is meant to be answered.
A person who doesn't believe in God can still serve His purpose and help His plan by acting on the dictates of conscience based on natural law. So, if a non-believing couple were to get married, they would still be participating in His plan.
Or was your question aimed at non-Christians?
Originally posted by Kaboooombachristians believe marriage is ordained by god, but I don't. I'm married. Do you have a problem with that. I can make choices without needing a god. Its not hard (to make the choices, getting it right is a little more tricky)
what's the difference between two Christians and two Non-Christians getting married?