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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
[b]What was my "initial attempt" ?

That would be your initial attempt to speak on what I think and Sharia at the top of Page 8.

BTW, my impression of why you called GB a bigot was not based on all the factors you have in your mind; it was based on some factors I had in my mind when I happened to notice this thread😡

No kidding. Did I ...[text shortened]... d be better off not trying to surmise what other posters think. You don't seem very good at it."[/b]
oh dear its gonna be roasty toasty for you.

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Originally posted by stellspalfie
just read this thread for the first time and wanted to offer my sympathy. it would seem people on here are so intent hating islam that they have lost all ability to read and comprehend.
Appreciate it. Not only does it seem that they have lost "all ability to read and comprehend", but to be at all rational.

The following seems to speak to what might be at work here:

Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. described bigotry in the following quotation: "The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract."

Pasted from <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry>


Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Appreciate it. Not only does it seem that they have lost "all ability to read and comprehend", but to be at all rational.

The following seems to speak to what might be at work here:

Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. described bigotry in the following quotation: "The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract."

Pasted from <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry>
Your friend Oliver Wendell Holmes must be from a distant galaxy. If he were from around this part of the universe he would know of the atrocities committed in the name of Islam because it stinks to high heaven.

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List of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 30 Days
[http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/]

DateCountryCityKilledInjuredDescription
2014.01.07PakistanKarachi60Sunni fundamentalists cut the throats of six Sufis for visiting a shrine.
2014.01.07IraqBaghdad120Muslim fundamentalists shoot a dozen sinners to death at a brothel.
2014.01.06NigeriaRiyom3025Thirty villagers are massacred by Fulani raiders.
2014.01.06PakistanHangu12A 14-year-old boy bleeds to death following a suicide bombing at his school.
2014.01.05IraqAdhaim60al-Qaeda gunmen summarily execute six civilians.
2014.01.04ThailandPattani11A man drinking tea at a shop is shot three times in the head by Muslim terrorists.
2014.01.03EgyptCairo10Muslim Brotherhood activists shoot dead a man who 'yelled insults' from the window of his house.
2014.01.02LebanonBeirut577An al-Qaeda suicide bomber takes out five people outside a restaurant.
2014.01.02YemenAden10A man is gunned down by al-Qaeda.
2014.01.02KenyaMombasa010Fundamentalists are suspected of throwing a grenade into a pool hall.
2014.01.02ThailandYala10Muslim 'separatists' shoot a civilian to death.
2014.01.02DRCNorth Kivu30Foreign Islamists kill three local soldiers.
2014.01.02IraqBalad Ruz1937Nineteen people at a car dealership are pulled into pieces by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2014.01.02IraqLatifiya59Muslim militants wipe out five shoppers at a market with a well-planted bomb.
2014.01.01SomaliaMogadishu2030A suicide blast outside a hotel leaves twenty dead.
2014.01.01IraqTarmiya412Sunni radicals storm a police station and kill four officers.
2014.01.01PakistanQuetta331A bus carrying Shia pilgrims is hit by Sunni suicide bomber, leaving three dead.
2014.01.01IraqRutba27A suicide bomber murders two Iraqis.
2013.12.31IraqBaghdad77Seven residents of a Shiite neighborhood are dismantled by al-Qaeda bombs.
2013.12.31IraqBaghdad40'Insurgents' fire mortars into a housing project, killing four innocents.
2013.12.31IraqBaghdad20Sunnis murder two Shia with a bomb mounted on a truck.
2013.12.31IraqMosul20Islamic terrorists storm a home and shoot a married couple to death.
2013.12.31EgyptAin Shams10Muslim Brotherhood members shoot a young Christian in the head outside a church.
2013.12.31YemenAden43Fedayeen suicide car bombers strike a police station, killing at least four.
2013.12.31PakistanPeshawar34Children are among the casualties of a bomb blast in a residential area.
2013.12.31NigeriaMaikatako216Fulani gunmen fire into a church during a New Years Eve service, killing two worshippers.
2013.12.31PhilippinesBasilan66An Abu Sayyaf group is thought responsible for a vicious attack on a New Year's Eve party that leaves a half-dozen dead.
2013.12.30PakistanPashtunabad02A woman and child are hurt when terrorists throw a hand grenade at a polio team.
2013.12.30PakistanCharsadda31Suspected Islamists plant a bomb inside a home which kills a woman and her two children.
2013.12.30RussiaVolgograd1635A bus is blown up by a suicide bomber, leaving at least sixteen dead commuters.
2013.12.30IraqMosul43A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes out four bystanders.
2013.12.30IraqBaiji29A man and his son are murdered by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2013.12.30PakistanRawalpindi21Two guards outside a Shia mosque are taken down by Sunni rivals.
2013.12.30DagestanKhasavyurt25An Islamist IED takes the lives of two passersby.
2013.12.29RussiaVolgograd1851Children are among the casualties when a female suicide bomber detonates at a train station, killing at least eighteen.
2013.12.29IraqAbu Ghraib66al-Qaeda shooting and bombing attacks leave six dead.
2013.12.29IraqMosul813A suicide bomber takes out eight Iraqis.
2013.12.29IraqMosul53A child is among five people who bleed to death following two Mujahideen bombings.
2013.12.29NigeriaKwajffa40Boko Haram shoot four people to death at a Christian village.
2013.12.29IraqGarma410Islamic militants kill four Iraqis in a shooting attack.
2013.12.29PakistanKarachi52Five Shia are shot to death in two separate attacks by dedicated Sunnis.
2013.12.28NigeriaTashan Alede83Pro-Sharia advocates storm a bachelor party and randomly shoot guests.
2013.12.28PakistanNowshera20An 18-year-old girl and 22-year-old man are shot to death by her conservative family for an 'illicit' relationship.
2013.12.28ThailandPattani10Muslim 'separatists' shoot a 5-year-old girl in the head.
2013.12.28PakistanKarachi20Sunni radicals fire on a rival religious scholar, killing two of his guards.
2013.12.28PakistanPeshawar11Fundamentalists shoot a polio worker to death at a clinic where children are being immunized.
2013.12.28AfghanistanNawagai11The Taliban fire a rocket into a village, killing a local.
2013.12.27LebanonBeirut770Hezbollah assassinates a former minister and six others with a car bomb.
2013.12.27RussiaPyatigorsk30Islamic militants detonate a car bomb that takes three lives.
2013.12.27AfghanistanKabul37A suicide bomber attacks a NATO convoy, killing three.
2013.12.27SomaliaMogadishu117Islamists plant a bomb in a restaurant that kills seven patrons.
2013.12.26EgyptCairo13Suspected Islamists kill one person with a bomb attack on a bus.
2013.12.26IraqBaghdad350Three Iranian dissidents were killed during a targeted Shia attack.
2013.12.26IraqMosul21'Insurgents' invade a home and riddle a family with bullets.
2013.12.26IraqDiyala40Four Iraqis are kidnapped from their homes and murdered by terrorists.
2013.12.26YemenHadramawt30Three local soldiers are machine-gunned point-blank by al-Qaeda.
2013.12.25PakistanKarachi423Two teens are among four persons killed in separate bomb blasts.
2013.12.25DagestanMutsalaul12A family is attacked for selling alcohol. Fundamentalists manage to kill an 11-year-old girl.
2013.12.25IraqBaghdad1121Holy Warriors target a market in a Christian area, killing at least eleven patrons in two blasts.
2013.12.25IraqBaghdad2638Over two dozen innocents outside a Catholic church are massacred by Religion of Peace bombers.
2013.12.25AfghanistanLogar613Six people are killed when Islamic extremists detonate a bicycle bomb outside a humanitarian aid office.
2013.12.25ThailandYala13A 58-year-old civilian is shot to death outside a mosque by Islamic 'insurgents'.
2013.12.25IraqBaghdad411Jihadi bombers murder four people at a soccer field.
2013.12.25IraqBalad813A bomb near a playground leaves eight dead.
2013.12.25IraqTal Afar117Bombs targeting Shia pilgrims leave at least one dead.
2013.12.24IraqBartala217Two Shia pilgrims are sent to Allah by Sunni bombers.
2013.12.24IraqTikrit518A suicide bombing is one of several that leave five dead Iraqis.
2013.12.24IsraelNachal Oz10A civilian is picked off across the border by a Palestinian sniper.
2013.12.24IraqMosul20Two brothers are gunned down by Mujahid.
2013.12.23EgyptCairo16100A suicide bomber detonates at a police station, ending over a dozen lives in horrible fashion.
2013.12.23IraqTikrit55Five journalists are killed during an al-Qaeda suicide assault on their office.
2013.12.23DagestanTsuntinsky40Four people, including a border guard, are taken out by pro-Caliphate gunmen.
2013.12.23ThailandYala13A 12-year-old is among the casualties of a terrorist shooting.
2013.12.23IraqBaqubah36Three commuters are shot to death by al-Qaeda.
2013.12.23IraqBaghdad39Three Shiites are blown to bits by Sunni bombers at a market.
2013.12.23IraqBaghdad29Islamic militants open fire on a bus, killing three passengers.
2013.12.23PakistanKarachi30Islamists are suspected in the torture and murder of three kidnapped members of a secular-leaning party.
2013.12.23IraqTikrit40Four college students are murdered by Mujahid gunmen.
2013.12.22LibyaAguiria133Thirteen people are pulled into pieces by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2013.12.22NigeriaChanchu24A 4-year-old is among two villagers shot to death by Muslim terrorists.
2013.12.22IraqBaghdad1334A university student is among thirteen people shot to death by Mujahideen.
2013.12.22ThailandSongkhla027Muslim 'insurgents' detonate a car bomb outside a hotel.
2013.12.22SyriaHoms70Terrorists snag five schoolchildren and two others with a car bomb.
2013.12.21PakistanJamrud10A polio worker is machine-gunned in his clinic by Muslim radicals.
2013.12.21IraqRutba1832Eighteen Iraqis soldiers are killed during an al-Qaeda ambush.
2013.12.21SyriaAleppo58Women and children are killed by an Islamist mortar attack on a residential neighborhood.
2013.12.21ThailandPattani10Muslim assassins shoot a man in the back of the head as he is eating lunch.
2013.12.21IraqShirqat65Mujahideen kill six Iraqis with two bombs.
2013.12.21IraqHawija56Five people, including an old woman, are dismantled by a Sunni bomb blast at their home.
2013.12.21IraqLatifiya36Three Shiite pilgrims are sent straight to Allah by terrorists.
2013.12.21SyriaDaraa1210Twelve people are reported killed when Islamists shell a church distributing aid to the needy.
2013.12.20IraqHawija60Six young men are pulled out of their homes and executed by suspected al-Qaeda.
2013.12.20NigeriaBama2012Twenty people, including women and children, are killed during a raid by a pro-Caliphate group.
2013.12.20PakistanMauripur224The Taliban is thought responsible for a bombing that leaves two dead.
2013.12.20IraqTuz Khurmato45A sectarian bombing at a cemetery leaves four dead.
2013.12.20IraqTuz Khurmato1231A vicious double-bombing at a livestock market shreds a dozen patrons.
2013.12.20PakistanKarachi225Two people lose their lives to a Shahid suicide ...

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Originally posted by stellspalfie
what????? are we talking about the taliban???? do you know what my opinion is on the taliban? nope.

its funny, by making a post that points out that people have not been reading and comprehending posts.........a bunch of posters start guessing at what i think and believe, adding opinions that i never voiced........bizarre.
I was using the Taliban as an example. It is pretty clear they are poster boys for the concept of terrorists, along with Al Qaeda and many other splinter groups like the ones forcing people into Islam in Sudan as we speak.

I intensely dislike ALL organized religions myself and I see Christian militants and Muslim militants and Hindu militants and wonder what a fundamentalist christian church member would do in a call to arms for whatever stupid reason the church deacon or whatever, calls for.

My question is not just limited to Islam.

I think ALL those religions stink to high heaven.

I can't believe a real god would ever condone such activity by these terrorists.

That said, I think it is clear all these religions are just man made in the first place, no god needed to make a religion where the god just happens to be made in the image of man, even though they say it the other way round. Of Course they say that.

Like a real god would have ANY human attributes like Jealousy and gender bias.

Total BS.

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Originally posted by Rajk999
Your friend Oliver Wendell Holmes must be from a distant galaxy. If he were from around this part of the universe he would know of the atrocities committed in the name of Islam because it stinks to high heaven.
Like I said, "Not only does it seem that they have lost 'all ability to read and comprehend', but to be at all rational."


Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Like I said, "Not only does it seem that they have lost 'all ability to read and comprehend', but to be at all rational."
You have also lost your sense of smell .. atrocities in the name of Islam stinks. What galaxy are you from?

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Originally posted by sonhouse
.. Christian militants and Muslim militants and Hindu militants ...
Of those three, only one group is called to arms by the holy books which govern the conduct of the followers.

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GB has shown himself to be a bigot with his posts on this thread. If you don't like it, take it up with him.

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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Interesting that GB insists on posting tripe from a website that is clearly the product of bigoted Christians preying on the ignorance of others by using dishonest tactics to further their fear mongering agenda whilst trying to claim that he has "no agenda" and is only doing so to "promote conversation".One would think that if that were the case, GB would ...[text shortened]... wise. It's quite clear that GB has the same agenda as the website that he has repeatedly quoted.
Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
"It's quite clear that GB very much has an agenda despite his claims otherwise. It's quite clear that GB has the same agenda as the website that he has repeatedly quoted."

* As someone who knows GB's online persona intimately, I can assure you that he does have an intense desire on RHP's Spirituality Forum since joining in July, 2007. Cut the membrane of his deepest motivations and a single intent seeps out:

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"Better yet, while your in the shower... "

"For by grace you have been saved through faith;
and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast." Ephesians 2:8-9

"For by grace you have been saved through..." empirical experience? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through..." rationalism? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through..." changing my personality? Nope
"For by grace you have been saved through..." giving up some of my pleasures? Nope
"For by grace you have been saved through..." positive thinking? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through..." being nice to people I can't stand? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through..." joining a church? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through..." making charitable donations to worthy causes? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through..." making an effort to help God save the planet? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through..." doing nice things for other people? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through..." arguing with people in online spirituality forums? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through..." denying my soul's existence? Nope.

"For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast." Ephesians 2:8-9 Why? Because faith is nonmeritorious. Christ did the work of satisfying the Father's Justice and Righteousness [Divine Integrity] through His substitutionary spiritual death in hypostatic union [perfect humanity and undiminished deity in one person forever]; Christ's work was done with you personally in mind. A grace gift is being offered [a gift that none of us can ever deserve or earn]. Accept it or reject it: either way, it's a decision with eternal consequences and it's a decision each of us make. There is no second chance or pardon by default after physical death.

"And inasmuch as it is [laid up] appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment." Hebrews 9:27

James described human life on earth is as "a fleeting vapor trail". Even if your eventual obituary reads "___ _____ departed this life at the age of 100 years of natural causes" it's brief. Chances are that some of us here today may breathe our final breath before the calendar changes to January 2, 2015 (as the result of an accident or sudden illness or botched cranial surgery to remove a malignant cancerous tumor). Some of us may be around for decades, periodically publically affirming our rejection of the Risen Christ. Why? It's too simple; it's so simple it's an insult to my high level of intelligence. Please think about these momentous things while your driving alone on an important mission. Better yet, while your in the shower or tub or standing naked before your bathroom vanity mirror. Why? Because within that venue it's virtually impossible to escape an awareness of your physical imperfections, frailities and mortality. Unit of measure of life: one day at a time.

Think about this Red Hot Pawn Spirituality Forum thread and about your clever posts and cowardly Thumbs Down that gained or reinforced the approval of your likeminded friends. Then think again about yourself and the eternal destiny of your soul, which will reside at one of two addresses for all eternity: with God sharing His perfect happiness or alone suffering for eternity in the Lake of Fire. Yes, alone; your only company will be the worm of memory which never dies and which will constantly remind you of the information you've received on this very site, decided was trash and summarily dismissed.

"For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:23) "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten [uniquely born] Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world; but that the world should be saved through Him. He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name [person] of the only begotten [uniquely born] Son of God." (John 3:16-18) "Believe in the Lord Jesus and you shall be saved. " (Acts 16:31a) "I am the way, and the truth and the life; no man comes to the Father but through me." (John 14:6b) The choice is yours.

Thread 157261 But a natural man [unbeliever] does not accept the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them [the Gospel and Bible doctrine], because they are spiritually discerned." (1 Corinthians 2:14) "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey [the command to believe in] the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." John 3:36

* ThinkOfOne, GB doesn't want anyone here to have an excuse for their default choice to fry in the Lake of Fire forever. Bob


Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
GB has shown himself to be a bigot with his posts on this thread. If you don't like it, take it up with him.
I could bet that there were hundreds of bigots that warned the South Sudanese of the dangerous Islamic regime next door. If only they had listened.

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