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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby"He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey [the command to believe in] the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." John 3:36
Originally posted by ThinkOfOne (Page 12)
[b]"It's quite clear that GB very much has an agenda despite his claims otherwise. It's quite clear that GB has the same agenda as the website that he has repeatedly quoted."
* As someone who knows GB's online persona intimately, I can assure you that he does have an intense desire on RHP's Spirit ...[text shortened]... d eternal happiness are a matter of choice; my single desire for you is spelled out in * above.[/b]
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneOriginally posted by ThinkOfOne
[b] "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey [the command to believe in] the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." John 3:36
Interesting how you inserted the words in brackets in order to completely change the meaning of the sentence. Do your pride and arrogance have any bounds?[/b]
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyLet me see if you understand this. You've inserted text so as to completely change the meaning of what John the Baptist was quoted as saying in John 3:36 in order to get it to be in agreement with a verse from Acts? Remarkable the contortions some will go through in order to try to prop up their beliefs.
Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
[b] "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey [the command to believe in] the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." John 3:36
Interesting how you inserted the words in brackets in order to completely change the meaning of the sentence. Do your pride and a ...[text shortened]... the command to believe in]" in John 3:36 refers to the command immediately above in Acts 16:31a.[/b]
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneOriginally posted by ThinkOfOne
Let me see if you understand this. You've inserted text so as to completely change the meaning of what John the Baptist was quoted as saying in John 3:36 in order to get it to be in agreement with a verse from Acts? Remarkable the contortions some will go through in order to try to prop up their beliefs.
What's more, there seems to be more than a littl ...[text shortened]... u feel just as free to insert text so as to completely change the meaning of the words of Jesus?
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyThinkOfOne, please clarify your basis for identifying John the Baptist as the author of the Gospel of John.
Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
[b]Let me see if you understand this. You've inserted text so as to completely change the meaning of what John the Baptist was quoted as saying in John 3:36 in order to get it to be in agreement with a verse from Acts? Remarkable the contortions some will go through in order to try to prop up their beliefs.
_ ...[text shortened]... Reminder: Free Guinness on Draft tomorrow only; please leave your Animosity Sandwiches at home.[/b]
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneOriginally posted by ThinkOfOne
[b]ThinkOfOne, please clarify your basis for identifying John the Baptist as the author of the Gospel of John.
Never said he was. Not sure how you managed to get this so twisted in your mind.
Notes not text were inserted in [defining brackets] to facilitate reference and expand koine meaning of several passages.
My post was referring ...[text shortened]... nserting text so as to completely change the meaning of the translation of the verse you quoted.[/b]
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyC'mon GB. What's the reason for posting such a misleading summary of our discussion this far? It isn't enough that you've repeatedly posted misleading articles as the basis of this thread? It isn't enough that you've refused to own up to it in an honest manner?
Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
[b] "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey [the command to believe in] the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." John 3:36
Interesting how you inserted the words in brackets in order to completely change the meaning of the sentence. Do your pride and a ...[text shortened]... ways does reference to the command to be obeyed "completely change the meaning of the sentence"?[/b]
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneBracket [the command to believe in] refers to "Believe in the Lord Jesus" as the command;
C'mon GB. What's the reason for posting such a misleading summary of our discussion this far? It isn't enough that you've repeatedly posted misleading articles as the basis of this thread? It isn't enough that you've refused to own up to it in an honest manner?
[b]ThinkOfOne, in what ways does reference to the command to be obeyed "completely change t ...[text shortened]... who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."[/i]
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyAre you being intentionally dense?
Bracket [the command to believe in] refers to "Believe in the Lord Jesus" as the command;
if you do then then the result is "... and you shall be saved." (Acts 16:31a)
Originally posted by ThinkOfOne"Believe in the Lord Jesus and you shall be saved." (Acts 16:31a) "The choice is yours."
Are you being intentionally dense?
Here, I'll pare the sentences down for you and remove the brackets:
he who does not obey the command to believe in the Son shall not see life
vs.
he who does not obey the Son shall not see life
The two sentences have very different meanings.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyHere, I'll spell it out for you.
[b]"Believe in the Lord Jesus and you shall be saved." (Acts 16:31a) "The choice is yours."
ThinkOfOne, bracket [the command to believe in]" in John 3:36 refers to the command immediately above in Acts 16:31a.
Same meaning. Reminder: Free Draft Guinness will be served tomorrow; please leave animosity sandwiches at home.[/b]
What's "remarkable" is how so many cobble verses together from disparate sources in a dubious attempt to show that their beliefs are supported by the Bible. With John 3:36 you've taken the additional step of inserting text so as to completely change the meaning of the translation of the verse you quoted.
Originally posted by ThinkOfOne"James described human life on earth is as "a fleeting vapor trail". Even if your eventual obituary reads "___ _____ departed this life at the age of 100 years of natural causes" it's brief. Chances are that some of us here today may breathe our final breath before the calendar changes to January 2, 2015 (as the result of an accident or sudden illness or botched cranial surgery to remove a malignant cancerous tumor). Some of us may be around for decades, periodically publically affirming our rejection of the Risen Christ. Why? It's too simple; it's so simple it's an insult to my high level of intelligence. Please think about these momentous things while your driving alone on an important mission. Better yet, while your in the shower or tub or standing naked before your bathroom vanity mirror. Why? Because within that venue it's virtually impossible to escape an awareness of your physical imperfections, frailities and mortality. Unit of measure of life: one day at a time.
Here, I'll spell it out for you.
he who does not obey the command to believe in the Son shall not see life
vs.
he who does not obey the Son shall not see life
The two sentences have very different meanings. The latter means that one must OBEY JESUS to "see life". The former means that one need only obey a command to BELIEVE IN ...[text shortened]... text so as to completely change the meaning of the translation of the verse you quoted. [/quote]
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIs this a threat, Bobby?
Think about this Red Hot Pawn Spirituality Forum thread and about your clever posts and cowardly Thumbs Down that gained or reinforced the approval of your likeminded friends. Then think again about yourself and the eternal destiny of your soul, which will reside at one of two addresses for all eternity: with God sharing His perfect happiness or alone s ...[text shortened]... of the information you've received on this very site, decided was trash and summarily dismissed.