03 Feb 12
Should women teach? I mean Paul makes a good point. Adam was not deceived, but the woman was in the transgression.
From the New Testament:
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1 Timothy 2:11-14.
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Originally posted by moon1969I'm sorry? but you think that Paul is making a 'good' point?!??!?!?
Should women teach? I mean Paul makes a good point. Adam was not deceived, but the woman was in the transgression.
From the New Testament:
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1 Timothy 2:11-14.
It's a fairy tale with not a single solitary shred of evidentiary support written by primitive
privileged bigoted sexist men over 2000 years ago.
Your question is idiotic and ridiculous.
There is no evidence what so ever that women make bad teachers or that men make better
teachers and mountains of evidence that women can make excellent teachers.
There is no god, Adam and Eve never existed, Paul was an idiot, and the bible is a piece of bile
filled excrement.
The answer to your question is YES! and why are you asking such a fe'ckin stupid question?
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Originally posted by moon1969Well I don't give a damn who he was sexually attracted to.
But is not Paul the architect of christianity?
By the way, some think Paul was a closet homosexual.
What he says in the bible is abominable.
If he is the architect of Christianity then Christianity is built on what could be charitably
called excrement.
03 Feb 12
Originally posted by moon1969you should understand that paul believed in his own lies. he thought the end of the world was near and suggested that unmarried people remain unmarried so that they could give their entire attention to god during those last days. [1 Cr 7]
Paul said it "is good for a man not to touch a woman." 1 Corinthians 7:1.
Originally posted by moon1969you are trolling, right? tell me you're trolling
Should women teach? I mean Paul makes a good point. Adam was not deceived, but the woman was in the transgression.
From the New Testament:
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1 Timothy 2:11-14.
03 Feb 12
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Originally posted by VoidSpiritit was a piece of advice, nothing more, where is the lie?
you should understand that paul believed in his own lies. he thought the end of the world was near and suggested that unmarried people remain unmarried so that they could give their entire attention to god during those last days. [1 Cr 7]
03 Feb 12
Originally posted by amolv06Is that some kind of sick joke? Are you one of those wanting your women submissive and walking 6 paces behind you? Will you allow your women to have drivers licenses, not like in Saudi Arabia where they can't drive cars?
Clearly Paul didn't go far enough. I see nothing in there about women needing to be barefoot in the kitchen.
06 Feb 12
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Originally posted by moon1969In the quoted scripture above, Paul appears to have a premise and a conclusion. In other words, he seems to make a logical link between a reason and a subsequent assertion.
Should women teach? I mean Paul makes a good point. Adam was not deceived, but the woman was in the transgression.
From the New Testament:
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1 Timothy 2:11-14.
Premise/Reason: Paul notes that Adam was first formed before Eve, and that Adam was not deceived but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Then, Paul appears to make a logical link from this to:
Conclusion/Assertion: Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection, and not to teach or usurp authority of the man, but to be in silence.
Does anyone see or agree with this logic. Does it make sense. Is Paul and the Bible right on this one. And if so, how should we including women apply this scripture, i.e., Paul's words (inspired by god?) in our lives today. Do women bear the burden of Eve's transgression such that women today should be slient and not teach, and not usurp authority of the man.