Originally posted by frogstomp You are equating Jesus with the US Supreme Court and Paul to a Law Professor.
AND also equating a right to make one's own a religious interpretation with some postulated right to make personal legal determinations.
None of your "analogy" has any merit whatsoever.
Originally posted by frogstomp You are equating Jesus with the US Supreme Court and Paul to a Law Professor.
AND also equating a right to make one's own a religious interpretation with some postulated right to make personal legal determinations.
None of your "analogy" has any merit whatsoever.
LH is making perfectly good sense. You just don't have a reply to his question, so you try and shred the validity of the analogy. Cheap tactics.
Originally posted by Halitose LH is making perfectly good sense. You just don't have a reply to his question, so you try and shred the validity of the analogy. Cheap tactics.
Like which argument ? I can safely say the the Summa Theologica doesnt once mention the U.S. Supreme Court.
Paul : Christ words :: Law professors : Supreme Court rulings
It might be possible for a Law professor to have a better understanding of the Constitution than the Supreme Court does ,,, but it ain't possible that Paul had a better understanding of Christ's message than Christ did.
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Originally posted by frogstomp Like which argument ? I can safely say the the Summa Theologica doesnt once mention the U.S. Supreme Court.
Paul : Christ words :: Law professors : Supreme Court rulings
It might be possible for a Law professor to have a better understanding of the Constitution than the Supreme Court does ,,, but it ain't possible that Paul had ...[text shortened]... st's message than Christ did.
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The point that he believes Paul's writtings to be inspired by the Holy Spirit, and can therefor be equated with the teachings of Christ.
Originally posted by Halitose The point that he believes Paul's writtings to be inspired by the Holy Spirit, and can therefor be equated with the teachings of Christ.
What he believes is his business, just as what Paul believed was Paul's. Paul overstepped the mission to preach Christ's message and fell into interpretating it , and that doesn't make Paul a particularly reliable source on Christ's message. The message is in Christ's words and for Paul or anybody else to inflict their own meanings to it does great violence to the Holy Spirit.
Paul is NOT Christ, nor did he pretend to be.
Originally posted by frogstomp What he believes is his business, just as what Paul believed was Paul's. Paul overstepped the mission to preach Christ's message and fell into interpretating it , and that doesn't make Paul a particularly reliable source on Christ's message. The message is in Christ's words and for Paul or anybody else to inflict their own mea ...[text shortened]... great violence to the Holy Spirit.
Paul is NOT Christ, nor did he pretend to be.
What is your point?
Have you ever asked the Holy Spirit to speak to you when you read the Bible?
Remember that if the Holy Spirit does not interpret the Bible to you then Satan is waiting in the que to draw the wool over your eyes.
Originally posted by dj2becker What is your point?
Have you ever asked the Holy Spirit to speak to you when you read the Bible?
Remember that if the Holy Spirit does not interpret the Bible to you then Satan is waiting in the que to draw the wool over your eyes.
How much wool is on your eyelids? Why you can't see what His message is? You have Christ's words, you don't need anything else, and you diminish Christ by seeking other sources, paul included.
Originally posted by frogstomp How much wool is on your eyelids? Why you can't see what His message is? You have Christ's words, you don't need anything else, and you diminish Christ by seeking other sources, paul included.
All who have received the Spirit of God understand His word. (Without the Spirt to teach you and guide you, you simply have your own sinful human interpretation.)
Originally posted by dj2becker All who have received the Spirit of God understand His word. (Without the Spirt to teach you and guide you, you simply have your own sinful human interpretation.)
your word games wont do you any good, you refuse to see , you refuse to hear, you will receive a Paul's reward.
You must first seek before you find , only Christ can show you the way and telling yourself the you have "received the Spirit of God" only blasphemes the Spirit. If you knew what you were saying you wouldn't say it. You do not understand the Word, or you wouldn't look to Paul.
Originally posted by frogstomp your word games wont do you any good, you refuse to see , you refuse to hear, you will receive a Paul's reward.
You must first seek before you find , only Christ can show you the way and telling yourself the you have "received the Spirit of God" only blasphemes the Spirit. If you knew what you were saying you wouldn't say it. You do not understand the Word, or you wouldn't look to Paul.
Even without Paul's letters. Do you believe the gospels?
Originally posted by Halitose Okay, let me rephrase. Do you believe that Christ's words as recorded in the gospels are Christ's real words?
seek and you will find. as I told your tag-team partner , it's not for me to teach what Christ's message was. you will find your answer in His words, beyond that you can draw your own conclusion.
Originally posted by frogstomp seek and you will find. as I told your tag-team partner , it's not for me to teach what Christ's message was. you will find your answer in His words, beyond that you can draw your own conclusion.
Could you be a little more specific. Seek what? To find what? Eternal life? Peace? Prosperity?
edit1: I resent being equated to dj2 the whole time. He is entitled to his beliefs as much as you and I.
15 Aug '05 01:15
So, why is god punishing me?
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