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Originally posted by FMF
But you claim to be a Christian too, don't you?
People make all kinds of claims! I'll love you forever, I will pay you back
next payday, the check is in the mail, you can give me your money and
I'll double it, trust me!

Honestly, it is the truth that matters, in the case of Christians, it is only
those that belong to the Lord that truly are in fact Christians in my
opinion. You can disagree, up to you! God gives His Spirit to His own, the
term can be used because you were born in America, or white, or your
partents were, none of which matters one wit! It is between you and
God, it isn't even important what I think, if you belong to God in Christ,
you belong to God in Christ. You do not need my blessing.
Kelly

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Originally posted by KellyJay
According to my theology the only way you can lose anything, not just
your salvation is to have it at least once.
Kelly
Does that mean you accept my characterization of your theology in my previous post or not? You sound to me like you are trying to be vague about it.

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Originally posted by KellyJay
People make all kinds of claims! I'll love you forever, I will pay you back
next payday, the check is in the mail, you can give me your money and
I'll double it, trust me!

Honestly, it is the truth that matters, in the case of Christians, it is only
those that belong to the Lord that truly are in fact Christians in my
opinion. You can disagree, up to ...[text shortened]... f you belong to God in Christ,
you belong to God in Christ. You do not need my blessing.
Kelly
I am aware "People make all kinds of claims". Saying this is simply sidestepping the question I have put to you. Do you claim to be a Christian? Yes or no? Do you claim to "belong to God in Christ", yes or no?

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Originally posted by FMF
I am aware "People make all kinds of claims". Saying this is simply sidestepping the question I have put to you. Do you claim to be a Christian? Yes or no? Do you claim to "belong to God in Christ", yes or no?
Yes, yes
Kelly

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Originally posted by KellyJay
Yes, yes
Kelly
Well twenty years ago I also claimed to be a Christian and I also claimed to "belong to God in Christ" just as you are claiming about yourself now.

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Originally posted by FMF
Well twenty years ago I also claimed to be a Christian and I also claimed to "belong to God in Christ" just as you are claiming about yourself now.
You have no frigging idea about my walk with God, if you do please tell
me about it!
Kelly

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I've never said it was impossible to lose one's salvation I don't believe
that is scriptural. There are so many warnings about it in scripture it is
not funny! I've given examples how it could happen, and I really don't
want to have to do it again. If you have been keeping up with this
conversation you'd seen some. The last I think is no more than one page
back if that.
Kelly

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Originally posted by KellyJay
You have no frigging idea about my walk with God, if you do please tell
me about it!
I am not asking you to prove you are a Christian. I am accepting, at you word, that you claim to be a Christian.

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It is very simple, you need to have something before you lose it! He has
not once said he had a relationship with God through Jesus Christ, then
rejected that as not true. Since that is what a Christian is, how can he
claim to have been one?

As I said many will make claims, we are warned even that some among
us are really not part of God's body, they are there for other reasons.

I've given my reasons for my opinion, so they are supported, you may
not agree with them, such is life.
Kelly

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Originally posted by KellyJay
[FMF] has not once said he had a relationship with God through Jesus Christ...
I have said repeatedly that I believed that I had a relationship with God through Jesus Christ. I have said so repeatedly.

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Kelly position seems to amount to nothing more than the 'No True Scotsman' argument, ie FMF wasn't a 'Real Christian'.

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