Originally posted by Dasa
1. no meat eating.
2. no illicit sex.
3. no gambling and speculation.
4. no intoxication or drugs.
1. I don't think there is anything wrong with eating meat in terms of spirituality. I understand that you do and I respect your choice.
2. Sex, as far as I am concerned and in my own personal experience, is undoubtedly more of a spiritual thing than it is a physical thing. As humans we have this capacity and I reckon this sets us apart from the non-human inhabitants of the Earth. You have talked about your "distaste" for sex. I understand that this is in accordance with your beliefs and I respect your choice. However, you have great difficulty using words with their conventional meanings, so I have no interest in debating the definition of "illicit" with you.
3. I don't gamble. I don't borrow money. I don't see how either really have any spiritual connotations. One of the reasons I am not interested in religions and religionists' claims is because I see them all as codified speculation and wielded as alleged 'authority". I understand that you need to submit to an "authority" and I respect your choice to feel certain and "perfect" in your speculations.
4. I drink a little beer from time to time. I don't think there is any "spiritual" dimension to whether we drink beer or don't drink beer.
All four of the 'tenets' for "true spirituality" just sound like rules set to maintain a certain social order. You use the word "true" subjectively. I understand these four "rules" however, and I fully understand that you choose to obey them, and I respect your choice.