1. Standard memberWulebgr
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    02 Mar '05 22:261 edit
    Originally posted by Darfius
    The fact that you called Islam beautiful testifies to your ineligibility as a Christian. No false god is beautiful to a Christian.
    So, the death of Jesus was sufficient to wipe out the commandments, except those in the decalogue, but it was insufficient to save anyone capable of acknowledging beauty in the one book that renders more praise to the Creator than any other text.
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    02 Mar '05 22:26
    Originally posted by Darfius
    How can you call yourself a Christian when you do not adhere to the rules inherent therein?
    First of all you don't know me. Secondly what rules are you talking about that you know I don't follow as you don't know me?
  3. Standard memberDarfius
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    02 Mar '05 22:28
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    So, the death of Jesus was sufficient to wipe out the commandments, except those in the decalogue, but it was insuffient to save anyone capable of acknowledging beauty in the one book that renders more praise to the Creator than any other text.
    It was insufficient to one who does not believe that Jesus Christ rose from the dead in the literal sense and believes that false gods are worthy of praise.
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  6. Standard memberNemesio
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    02 Mar '05 22:36
    Originally posted by Darfius
    The fact that you called Islam beautiful testifies to your ineligibility as a Christian. No false god is beautiful to a Christian.
    Here we go again:

    You believe that Allah is false. You assert it, but you cannot
    prove it.

    Also, where does it say that I cannot find beauty in any other religion?

    I am waiting for your answer regarding my post to RBHILL. I want you
    to show me where I was insinuating that RBHILL was a moron and I
    want you to write a post that communicates the same information in
    a 'less insulting' way.

    Nemesio
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    02 Mar '05 22:37
    Originally posted by Darfius
    It was insufficient to one who does not believe that Jesus Christ rose from the dead in the literal sense and believes that false gods are worthy of praise.
    I and wulebgr said 'Beauty' not 'Praise.'

    Do you not see the difference? Do you not see how you are
    putting words in our mouths?

    Nemesio
  8. Standard memberRBHILL
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    02 Mar '05 22:37
    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    I read the scriptures, and the word 'saved' is not to be found... it only asks we believe in him.

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    If all relgions lead to God, then there was no need for christ to have died on that Cross, or even for Muhammad to have preach his own word. There would be no need for the 10 commandment either becasue no one can keep them.
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  10. Standard memberRBHILL
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    02 Mar '05 22:38
    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    I read the scriptures, and the word 'saved' is not to be found... it only asks we believe in him.

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    Read Romans 10:13 the word saved is in there.
  11. Standard memberPhlabibit
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    02 Mar '05 22:45
    Originally posted by Darfius
    "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."

    Romans 10:9
    Cool beans, bud. RB, thanx for finding it too.

    It really doesn't change how I feel about the afterlife... If God or Jesus doesn't want good people just cuz they didn't suck up to Him, I'm not sure it is a place I'd want to go anyway. Plus the book was written by men.

    What parts were written by Jesus, that would be an interesting read I'd give a shot.

    P
  12. Standard memberRBHILL
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    02 Mar '05 22:46
    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    Cool beans, bud. RB, thanx for finding it too.

    It really doesn't change how I feel about the afterlife... If God or Jesus doesn't want good people just cuz they didn't suck up to Him, I'm not sure it is a place I'd want to go anyway. Plus the book was written by men.

    What parts were written by Jesus, that would be an interesting read I'd give a shot.

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    They are not good people, maybe by human standards yes, but by his no.
  13. Standard memberRBHILL
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    02 Mar '05 22:47
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    This is an awfully broad question. As a Christian I find that there are plenty of times I disagree with "bible-believing Christians." And there are times when I might find a common bond or friendship with an atheists or agnostics. So what? If you want some examples I can give you some, none of which my salvation or the person I disagree with rest th ...[text shortened]... Nemesio's post several times and I'm really not seeing anything that you're reading into it.
    Do not be yoked with non-believers.
  14. Standard memberRBHILL
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    02 Mar '05 22:48
    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    Cool beans, bud. RB, thanx for finding it too.

    It really doesn't change how I feel about the afterlife... If God or Jesus doesn't want good people just cuz they didn't suck up to Him, I'm not sure it is a place I'd want to go anyway. Plus the book was written by men.

    What parts were written by Jesus, that would be an interesting read I'd give a shot.

    P
    Read to all of the Gospel of John.
  15. Standard memberDarfius
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    02 Mar '05 22:55
    Originally posted by Nemesio
    I and wulebgr said 'Beauty' not 'Praise.'

    Do you not see the difference? Do you not see how you are
    putting words in our mouths?

    Nemesio
    Is beautiful not ALWAYS used as a word for praise?

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